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Agatha chris Q tag, possible overhaul.

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BUR #9197 has been rejected.

create alias agatha_chris_q_outfit_(touhou) -> agatha_chris_q_(touhou)

Similar to turbo bakuren tag tag.
Only akyuu wears this outfits, thus causing a tag that any character can wear because it is a outfits to end up being pointless.
proof of this, a fast search "agatha_chris_q_outfit_(touhou) -hieda_no_akyuu" returns zero results.
in the hypothetical case that in some distant future there is a fanart of another character using this uniform, "hieda_no_akyuu" can be used instead.

Also, similar to shameimaru_aya_(newsboy) and futatsuiwa_mamizou_(human), this outfits is an alter ego to hide the true Akyuu identity, is like a separate character, to be consistent with the other tags mentioned above, it should be in the character category.

nonamethanks said:

This should be a character tag.

Does it even need a tag? It's the same thing she always wears with two extra accessories. We haven't given tags to any of the other slightly different Touhou character outfits, such as WBaWC Reimu or WaHH Kogasa

It's a stretch to say it hides her identity, it definitely isn't like a separate character.

It's not to hide her identity, and yes, it's just a fancier version of her standard outfit.
I made the tag some time ago because it was hard to search for it.

blindVigil said:

Does it even need a tag? It's the same thing she always wears with two extra accessories. We haven't given tags to any of the other slightly different Touhou character outfits, such as WBaWC Reimu or WaHH Kogasa

In theory the first one should be searched through a hakurei_reimu wily_beast_and_weakest_creature search.

blindVigil said:

That's my point. All three of these outfits should just be tagged with the copyright they feature in, as none of them are very different from their standard outfits. (Obviously not referring to Aya or Mamizou's outfits, those are fine having their own tags.)

The problem is that 90% of Akyuu's appearances are in Forbidden Scrollery, the same series the outfit appears in.

Username_Hidden said:

The problem is that 90% of Akyuu's appearances are in Forbidden Scrollery, the same series the outfit appears in.

I don't really see how that's an issue, it's not the first thing she appeared in and she's appeared in multiple other works. No one tags Akyuu posts with Forbidden Scrollery, so it's not like there's any conflict.

blindVigil said:

I don't really see how that's an issue, it's not the first thing she appeared in and she's appeared in multiple other works. No one tags Akyuu posts with Forbidden Scrollery, so it's not like there's any conflict.

Wouldn't it conflict with this?
while it, some illustrations could count as "direct reference", there are some illustrations that do not fit this definition, also some of the illustrations do not parody a particular scene from the original source.
that the character wears that outfit casually is not sufficient justification to use the Forbidden Scrollery tag.
hence the importance of having a separate tag.

tremolo_measure said:

Wouldn't it conflict with this?
while it, some illustrations could count as "direct reference", there are some illustrations that do not fit this definition, also some of the illustrations do not parody a particular scene from the original source.
that the character wears that outfit casually is not sufficient justification to use the Forbidden Scrollery tag.
hence the importance of having a separate tag.

A character wearing an outfit exclusive to a particular work counts as a direct reference. NNT even confirms this in the very second post.

yyflandre said:

Reimu wearing an outfit from a game instead of her "usual" outfit (post #4419411). For print works like Foul Detective Satori, the copyright can be tagged if the post depicts an official_alternate_costume from the work

nonamethanks said:

All these examples still count as direct references. Blame taggers for being dumb.

That is in fact the exact way we're supposed to handle tagging Touhou characters. Outfits like turbo Byakuren get a pass for actually being a different outfit, and not just her usual outfit with an extra stripe on it or something, but long standing protocol has been to use the copyright tags to track changes in character designs. This typically applies to all copyrights, as well, not just Touhou, Touhou is just usually the most pertinent example of this.

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She doesn't wear it casually though. NNT's point makes sense when a character has a certain design throughout a title, but in this case it's a specific outfit which appears only a couple times, different from the usual outfit that the character wears throughout the title. For example, in Kogasa's case, she has a single outfit in FS. It doesn't need a tag.

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