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Alias? Ten Desires -> Touhou Shinreibyou Ten Desires

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I support this, but what's with the wave dash (~), which is used to separate title and subtitle?
title: Touhou Shinreibyou
subtitle: Ten Desires

Characters like umlauts are not used in tags for obvious reasons, but I would still want to separate them. (Also implicate all games to touhou and print works to touhou)

About Touhou Wiki: They also use western name order, different romanization rules and believe "Unthinkable Natural Law" is an acceptable title.

Edit: Oh, yes. What I also mean is that those tag choices are heavily influenced by the "touhou wiki". I don't think we ever discussed those choices.

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I doubt anyone ever bothered to enact any real Touhou tag policy. As long as I've been here the tags were the way they were and are usually self-regulating with little need for intervention. They do seem influenced by Touhou Wiki though.

The one exception to the naming rule that I can currently think of is Touhou Hisoutensoku, which is simply for lack of an English subtitle.

I wouldn't resist a change, along with firming up policy on what should be tagged with game names, but it's not all that broken the way it is now, either.

I think that's a full width tilde ZUN technically uses, not a wavedash. Tildes have long been used as an acceptable alternative for either, however, and are used often enough on the site with no problem. Touhou Shinreibyou ~ Ten Desires would work fine.

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Fencedude said:
I forget our policy on the Copyright tags for the actual Touhou games. Do we even have a policy?

Anyway, I'd suggest using their full names

ten_desires -> touhou_shinreibyou_ten_desires

I hate long tags, they makes the tag column looks cumbersome. "Ten desires" is specific enough to be series name, why do we have to change to "touhou shinreibyou ten desires"? With what you suggest, we should have:

the embodiment of scarlet devil -> touhou koumakyou ~ the embodiment of scarlet devil
perfect cherry blossom -> touhou youyoumu ~ perfect cherry blossom
imperishable night -> touhou eiyashou ~ imperishable night
phantasmagoria of flower view -> touhou kaeizuka ~ phantasmagoria of flower view
etc.

That's about Touhou, if this is made into policy we will need to change all other series that have english subtitle and make them full name. That just looks silly to me. I mean, both part of the name is official, why do we want to make it hard on ourself by putting both fully in view? If I want technical information like name in kanji, full official name, etc., I'd head over to the specific wiki and read there.

If you want to use Japanese title, go ahead and use touhou shinreibyou only. Actually it would make things nicer because: 1) keep Danbooru rule of using romanized Japanese/Chinese series name and 2) all the touhou tags will be kept together under "touhou_*" like those "tales_of_*" (nicer to look in a post, nicer to search for).

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HuV7 said:
If you want to use Japanese title, go ahead and use touhou shinreibyou only. Actually it would make things nicer because: 1) keep Danbooru rule of using romanized Japanese/Chinese series name and 2) all the touhou tags will be kept together under "touhou_*" like those "tales_of_*" (nicer to look in a post, nicer to search for).

No, they won't:

東方文花帖 ~ Shoot the Bullet
ダブルスポイラー ~ 東方文花帖
妖精大戦争 ~ 東方三月精

東方儚月抄 ~ Silent Sinner in Blue
東方儚月抄 ~ Cage in Lunatic Runagate
東方儚月抄 ~ 月のイナバと地上の因幡

Why did we even discuss the use of Fairy Wars / Great Fairy Wars when the title is Yousei Daisensou? I need confirmation on whether とうほうさんげつせい or とうほうさんげっせい is "correct".

I don't see it mentioned anywhere, so: I'm quite sure we have previously decided not to use tilde-subtitles in our tagging. The issue came up with visual novel titles, which tend to excel at it, though I can't readily find the relevant threads. Will paste them here when I do. But the point was the primary title should be enough, unless there are more installments distinguished only by the subtitle, in which case we make up a succint enough composite title.

葉月 said: So do I. I'd submit we should default to that, and only deviate when there's ambiguity like with 東方儚月抄.

Makes sense to me. Serious Touhou fans will know or be able to easily look up the Japanese names.

We have enough practice with moving to the Japanese titles to be able confidently to say there's no real danger of "I'll never be able to remember that". In six months' time, we won't even remember we used to use the English titles.

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