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[FGO] Discussion about Koyanskaya of Light and Darkness

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As of recently, there are two individual characters, Koyanskaya of Light and Koyanskaya of Darkness. The latter has Beast IV:L's characteristics, the former doesn't. Using Pixiv tags as an example, keep in mind artists/users already differentiate them by name (either by Koyanskaya of Light and Koyanskaya of Darkness or simply by Koyanskaya and Koyanskaya of Darkness).

IMO there are four possible courses of action to differentiate them on Danbooru, like we do with other characters with "reused design":

1 - Rename Koyanskaya to Koyanskaya of Light and Beast IV:L to Koyanskaya of Darkness;
Tamamo could remain implied, functioning as an umbrella for both plus the other Tamamos or have the implication removed, since similar to how Gray and other saberfaces don't count as Artoria Pendragon, Koyanskaya isn't really a Tamamo.

2 - Create Koyanskaya of Light and rename Beast IV:L to Koyanskaya of Darkness;
Tamamo could remain implied ... or have the implication removed... Koyanskaya could be kept as an implication, catchall tag. It'd make things easier but be somewhat meaningless because anyone can search for "koyanskaya_of_light_(fate) koyanskaya_of_darkness_(fate)".

3 - Keep the tags, using Beast IV:L solely to tag art of the Beast itself and Koyanskaya of Darkness' ascension resembling her and everything else under Koyanskaya.
The easiest way, but like Kiara, Tiamat, Goetia and Kama's Beast forms, I think Beast IV:L shouldn't have a character tag.

4 - Alias Beast IV:L to Koyanskaya.
I think it's the worst, simply bad. People could search for specific tags to find Koyanskaya of Darkness' art, but it would be a problem for those of us who have a limit of two tags per search.

What are your opinions and ideas regarding what should be done with these characters?

Both 1 and 2 would be simply incorrect ways to tag things, because regardless of what we do with the of Light version, Koyanskaya of Darkness is NOT equivalent to Beast IV:L. I don't think it hurts to have a Beast form tag, but it's definitely not the equivalent.
So my personal vote is for 3. The game might have separated them into two different characters, but [the last line of the spoiler section on her wiki] is why I really can't care about splitting her art into two distinct tags. It's all Koyanskaya anyway, even down to the contrived lore they made to sell her twice within 4 months. We might as well treat it like ascension levels for other characters and keep it all together considering both base forms of "of Light" and "of Dark" are literally just some regular costumes Koyanskaya wore in story before.

And once again I will reiterate that, no matter which way we decide to tag things, I am against removing the Koyanskaya -> Tamamo implication for all the reasons I mentioned in forum #203202. Her case might be similar at a surface level to Gray or other Saberfaces but it's not NEARLY the same because of all those factors combined.

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Astolfo said:

even down to the contrived lore they made to sell her twice within 4 months.

Lol

I am against removing the Koyanskaya -> Tamamo implication for all the reasons I mentioned in forum #203202.

Thanks, I read post #5020532 comments and forum #203202 now, I should've searched before starting a new topic. Fair enough, I agree and that's how people were already genuinely, spontaneously tagging them.
Keep things as they are then, just have to work in their wikis later and do eventual gardening.

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Astolfo said:

It's all Koyanskaya anyway, even down to the contrived lore they made to sell her twice within 4 months.

I could tell you that's probably the most bullshit thing they ever done, so they can harvest money from player for the second time with the same character.
Even I'm a Tamamo's fan, This is like giving a middle finger to my face.
As her other version look like like something that could fit as alternate costume than as separate character.
Nevermind, there nothing I can do anyway, and I still find some player out there think this is fine. Even I'm try to explain it's just an excuse as lore to sell this character again.

I also vote 3 as well, cause I think both version is still the same Koyanskaya anyway, Beast IV:L tag just for her beast form should be enough.
And there're also costumes of her from LB that's not playable yet.

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