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The bulk update request #9931 has been rejected.
create alias war_counselor_iji -> smithing_master_iji
The character's title of war counselor is a minor spoiler, or rather, there is a quantifiably less-close-to-being-a-spoiler title available to use for the character instead.
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Is it really? The name alone doesn't tell you anything.
If we're going to rename him at all, and I don't really think it's necessary, it should be to Smithing Master Iji, as that's how the game first introduces him.
The names for souls characters should be the canonical ones, because every single one of them has like 3 different names they're referred to as by the community and it makes it impossible to find them.
And yeah this is not a spoiler.
blindVigil said:
Is it really? The name alone doesn't tell you anything.
Really as in "does it actually matter"? Not as far as I know. But it is something the player only learns if they find Ranni and join her in-group. Iji says "apologies for the deception", as in it's something the player [character] isn't intended to be in on at first. It is something revealed, ie. a spoiler for those who may value it being revealed to them in the intended fashion, rather than from sources outside the game. It is vanishingly minor as spoilers go (again only as far as I know) but nontheless against Danbooru convention for avoiding spoilers in tag names when possible.
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Nell said:
Really as in "does it actually matter"? Not as far as I know. But it is something the player only learns if they find Ranni and join her in-group. Iji says "apologies for the deception", as in it's something the player [character] isn't intended to be in on at first. It is something revealed, ie. a spoiler for those who may value it being revealed to them in the intended fashion, rather than from sources outside the game. It is vanishingly minor as spoilers go, indeed, but nontheless against Danbooru convention for avoiding spoilers in tag names when possible.
Fextralife already reveals it to anyone that tries to look him up, as they use War Counselor Iji as the name of his page, and it's the first result if you google "iji elden ring".
And I'm gonna be frank, I really don't care about spoilers that aren't actually spoilers. "Something the player only learns if..." as a criteria for something being a spoiler makes everything a spoiler. The existence of items, NPCs, insignificant events. A real spoiler is a character death, a character being alive when they were thought to be dead, information intentionally kept from the audience so as to be a big reveal. Archer's true identity is a spoiler, its reveal is a major plotpoint to the F/SN story. Iji's real title has no bearing on anything, it does nothing to reveal his affiliations, and in game is little more than an easily overlooked change in his menu when speaking to him. If this is a spoiler, then this entire website is a spoiler.
blindVigil said:
Fextralife already reveals it to anyone that tries to look him up, as they use War Counselor Iji as the name of his page, and it's the first result if you google "iji elden ring".
This. If someone really searches for that blacksmith, he won't start with danbooru. Using goggle to find Iji just reveals his complete name by the fextralife wiki. It makes no sense to be so hard on spoilers for danbooru, if every other site on the internet uses he full name.
FYI to edit a BUR you need to click on it and then "edit". If you just edit the forum topic nothing's going to change.
blindVigil said:
information intentionally kept from the audience so as to be a big reveal
I feel a distinction is appropriate between even very minor reveals and other types of insignificant detail, based on the author's intent to 'actively' obscure something. But sure, I can appreciate that it's not very important; I just want to make the reasoning clear.
Guaro said:
This. If someone really searches for that blacksmith, he won't start with danbooru. Using goggle to find Iji just reveals his complete name by the fextralife wiki. It makes no sense to be so hard on spoilers for danbooru, if every other site on the internet uses he full name.
Fair enough! I did have the impression that Danbooru actually was unusually hard on spoilers.
nonamethanks said:
FYI to edit a BUR you need to click on it and then "edit". If you just edit the forum topic nothing's going to change.
Thanks.
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Personally, I didn't even meet Iji in person before Ranni's quest, and I imagine that's a case with a not insignificant number of players.
The bulk update request #9931 (forum #210820) has been rejected by @nonamethanks.
