Average Moderation Length?

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Magus said:
If privileged users could delete pics...that would make us de facto mods, would it not? And that's not what we are.

It was unclear to me whether or not privileged users were in fact de facto mods (when it comes to approving newly uploaded pictures).

Ralen said:
Just out of curiosity, is it possible for a single mod to arbitrarily delete a post awaiting approval

Yes, that's how it works (they can give a reason for deletion too). In fact even approved posts can be deleted by a single mod, I think.

surasshu said:
Yes, that's how it works (they can give a reason for deletion too). In fact even approved posts can be deleted by a single mod, I think.

Yes they can. If they couldn't, a malicious privileged user could upload banned content and get away with it.

The auto-deletion features of the current danbooru revision keeps highly opinionated mods like myself from deleting 70-90 percent of what gets uploaded for sucking or "poorly drawn". The previous method left large amounts of backlog when the more timid/milder moderators would just let images sit in the queue, unwilling to approve but not willing to delete. This left other mods having to either "tsundere-approve" (I'm approving this but it isn't like I really like it) or delete it. In turn, this lead to a considerable amount of whining (WHY DID YOU DELETE MY UPLOADS OF ELEPHANT SASUKE NAILING HORSE NARUTO IN THE ASS AS DRAWN BY USAGIMIYA12328 FROM DEVIANTART IT WAS REALLY HOT). I think the current method is probably a bit more fair to the average uploader and also gives the mods a second chance to possibly change our opinion about a particular image.

I personally favor the WWAD approach. Next time you feel the urge to upload something to danbooru, ask yourself this: What Would Albert Do? Would he upload this ancient gif of some guy spurting ribbons of cum on a young maid's face? If the answer is yes, then the odds of it already existing on danbooru are pretty good. If the answer is no, then move on to something else.

Ralen said: Just out of curiosity, is it possible for a single mod to arbitrarily delete a post awaiting approval, or does it only get deleted when it hasn't been approved after 3 days?

Yes, we can. But most of the time I don't think anyone does unless it just clearly breaks rules.

nil! said:
I personally favor the WWAD approach. Next time you feel the urge to upload something to danbooru, ask yourself this: What Would Albert Do? Would he upload this ancient gif of some guy spurting ribbons of cum on a young maid's face? If the answer is yes, then the odds of it already existing on danbooru are pretty good. If the answer is no, then move on to something else.

But who is albert? You act like everybody who ends up on this site should know who albert is, what his preferences are, and what fetishes he jerks off to. Maybe he likes facials? I don't know. Maybe it's a quality image that for some reason or other hasn't been uploaded yet.

My entire argument is if the uploaded image doesn't break the stated rules (No furry, no Yaoi, no Poorly Drawn, etc), then why shouldn't it be approved? You don't like it, you can easily blacklist it and never see it again.

Continuing from daesgiathatch,

I know there isn't any sort of guidelines as to what kind of post can be considered approvable. But after posting 16 pictures, only 7 has been approved so far. I know it's very little but since this is my first time and I'd like to try things out and see how it goes before going all out.

So far I've been posting game cgs (since game cgs are generally quite acceptable) and I think they're quite okay for approval. I try to make sure they're not posted before but may be limited due to my unprivileged status. I try not to post "questionable" images since they're, well, questionable?

Could I maybe like, get some feedback instead having to wait 3 days for the result if they're not approved? Otherwise at this rate, I'll be having some difficulty figuring out where my posting went wrong.

nil! said:
Next time you feel the urge to upload something to danbooru, ask yourself this: What Would Albert Do? Would he upload this ancient gif of some guy spurting ribbons of cum on a young maid's face? If the answer is yes, then the odds of it already existing on danbooru are pretty good. If the answer is no, then move on to something else.

This approach leads to no one uploading anything ever.
If: Albert likes it, Then: it's probably already here, so don't upload it, Else: don't upload it anyway because it probably sucks.

kagusuchi said: I know there isn't any sort of guidelines as to what kind of post can be considered approvable. But after posting 16 pictures, only 7 has been approved so far. I know it's very little but since this is my first time and I'd like to try things out and see how it goes before going all out.

Chill, you're jumping the gun. Your oldest post was only 17 hours ago and none have been deleted outright, so don't worry about it.

All your images are perfectly fine and I think I've personally accepted all of them. You have nothing to worry about. Keep uploading stuff like this and you'll surely get an invite before long. Just realize that hundred and hundreds of posts go through the queue in a day and, unfortunately, most of the mods have jobs and other things they need to do from time to time.

kagusuchi said:
I try to make sure they're not posted before but may be limited due to my unprivileged status. I try not to post "questionable" images since they're, well, questionable?

If you upload something that's already on the site, you'll get redirected to the page that's already there, regardless of its ranking, so I wouldn't worry about that. The only real exception to this is if you've an image with terrible quality (like JPEG artifacts up the wazoo), in which case it might be a good idea to hold off. Even then, though, sometimes it's acceptable; see post #167549 for how I handled such a situation.
Furthermore, I wouldn't worry about posting questionable images. If you mean questionable as in questionably explicit, it doesn't matter; I posted explicit stuff when I was a regular user. If you mean questionable as in borderline yaoi/furry/banned-from-here, use your best judgment. Don't flood the site with stuff that might not belong, but don't be shy about uploading something you think might fit.

daesgiathatch said:
But who is albert?

Albert is the guy who runs Danbooru.

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As for the issue of things not getting approved, I'd say not to worry about it. If you upload stuff that doesn't belong here, someone'll probably send you a message. Another thing you can do is hang out on IRC (I recommend #danbooru@mint.sayuri.ca since the official room, #miezaru-illuminati@irc.synirc.net, is somewhat inactive) and ask people there for thoughts on things you upload.

Ralen said: This approach leads to no one uploading anything ever. If: Albert likes it, Then: it's probably already here, so don't upload it, Else: don't upload it anyway because it probably sucks.

No, because thousands of pieces of new art are created daily. Albert can't get to them all. And nil! was just giving a general guideline, not a concrete rule.

jxh2154 said:
No, because thousands of pieces of new art are created daily. Albert can't get to them all.

Although it's certainly not for want of trying. His ability to find and post things borders on the superhuman.

uncreative said: Although it's certainly not for want of trying. His ability to find and post things borders on the superhuman.

It's also a matter of when in the day you can upload. They very first thing I do when I get home from work is check what got updated that day, but usually the very best stuff has been uploaded already, by mug-g or albert.

If you have a schedule where uploading while other people are at work is possible, it'll be easier to get to certain artists. I know there are a number of artists that used to be uploaded exclusively or primarily by me, but now someone else always gets to them first, usually while I'm at work.

Ralen said:
This approach leads to no one uploading anything ever.
If: Albert likes it, Then: it's probably already here, so don't upload it, Else: don't upload it anyway because it probably sucks.

No. If an image is "maybe already here" upload it anyway. This is what I keep saying--despite what some other folks may lead you to believe, uploading dupes is not a problem. You CANNOT upload a duplicate. If you think an image should be on here, upload it. If it's already here danbooru will catch it (unless you edited it before, in which case... don't).

And for the record I've never uploaded something that albert already put up... I think. Maybe once.

surasshu said: You CANNOT upload a duplicate.

This isn't entirely true. I've seen a good number of images that match, to human eyes, exactly. But often, dupe detect will catch things. But by no means always.

But your point is right... just upload it, you won't be penalized if it's a dupe and isn't caught.

jxh2154 said:
This isn't entirely true. I've seen a good number of images that match, to human eyes, exactly. But often, dupe detect will catch things. But by no means always.

I've noticed this happening once or twice too... But I attributed it to my poor eyesight. :D

Some general posting guidelines I've been following:

If you grab a picture directly off an artist's website, and aren't using archaic browsing software, you can likely upload it without worry.

If you grab it off a *chan/image dump/etc, it might be a dupe in some way/shape/form for any number of reasons, and a quick browse might be in order before uploading it.

If it's something you grabbed off a *chan, and isn't something you can search for easily to check (e.g. generic H-CG picture with tags cum/breasts), it might not be something worth uploading anyways.

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