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BUR #50148 has been rejected.
rename german_mythology -> german_folklore
While there is obviously ties between Germanic Paganism/Mythology and later Folklore (Which is what the tag was made for), German Mythology is more or less identical to Norse Mythology, so the tag being called Germanic Mythology could cause confusion there.
Space_Force_Detective said:
BUR #50148 has been rejected.
rename german_mythology -> german_folklore
While there is obviously ties between Germanic Paganism/Mythology and later Folklore (Which is what the tag was made for), German Mythology is more or less identical to Norse Mythology, so the tag being called Germanic Mythology could cause confusion there.
Don't really see the point as every other "Mythology" tag is listed as mythology, example, Greek Mythology isn't named "Greek Folklore".
TheGamingRodent said:
Don't really see the point as every other "Mythology" tag is listed as mythology, example, Greek Mythology isn't named "Greek Folklore".
I meant that the tag was made for Folklore (Look at the art with it), not the mythology, there is a distinction.
Space_Force_Detective said:
I meant that the tag was made for Folklore (Look at the art with it), not the mythology, there is a distinction.
Apolgies if this is confusing, my point is Germanic Mythology is Norse Mythology, they're the same, The tag was made for Folklore which came after Chrstianization.
For our purposes, we tend to not bother distinguishing between mythology and folklore. Also, as mentioned, keeping it as mythology maintains tag consistency.
Akihi said:
For our purposes, we tend to not bother distinguishing between mythology and folklore. Also, as mentioned, keeping it as mythology maintains tag consistency.
Then the wikis for both should explain which tag of the 2 tags is used for what.
Space_Force_Detective said:
Apolgies if this is confusing, my point is Germanic Mythology is Norse Mythology, they're the same
Then you're also making the argument that we should merge the Roman mythology tag into the Greek mythology tag, because they're essentially the same after the Romans basically merged the latter into the former. But they aren't truly the same, there's still differences between the two, just like there's differences between Norse mythology and German mythology. We shouldn't be conflating the two.
Damian0358 said:
Then you're also making the argument that we should merge the Roman mythology tag into the Greek mythology tag, because they're essentially the same after the Romans basically merged the latter into the former. But they aren't truly the same, there's still differences between the two, just like there's differences between Norse mythology and German mythology. We shouldn't be conflating the two.
The tag was made for post Christization folklore, not Germanic Paganism. The differences between the 2’s native religions are a fair bit more minor and arguably negligible
Space_Force_Detective said:
The tag was made for post Christization folklore, not Germanic Paganism. The differences between the 2’s native religions are a fair bit more minor and arguably negligible
My point was moreso post-Christianized German Folklore should be split from the German mythology tag
Space_Force_Detective said:
The tag was made for post Christization folklore, not Germanic Paganism. The differences between the 2’s native religions are a fair bit more minor and arguably negligible
My point was moreso post-Christianized German Folklore should be split from the German mythology tag
How can you argue that's what the tag was made for when you weren't the one to make it? That's you forcing your interpretation upon the tag. And why should it be split? Folklore is often derived from myth, and there's nothing about the Wolpertinger in the post that specifically says that it only exists due to Germany being Christianized.
Space_Force_Detective said:
My point was moreso post-Christianized German Folklore should be split from the German mythology tag
This doesn't make any sense, as someone who is of German descent, German folklore and German mythos are essential the same thing, especially since you gotta think of the Brothers Grimm, who often adapt local mythos and folklore
TheGamingRodent said:
This doesn't make any sense, as someone who is of German descent, German folklore and German mythos are essential the same thing, especially since you gotta think of the Brothers Grimm, who often adapt local mythos and folklore
I’m aware, it’s more of a grey area then I make it seem (didn’t want to ramble really), I’d argue at the least the mythology tag’s wiki page should be written to say what it does and doesn’t cover due to the overlap, I’ll confess part of this autism is the fact I typically use the phrase “Germanic Paganism” rather then Norse as the term for it, my main worry was confusion due to the LARGE overlap between the 2 tags/
Space_Force_Detective said:
I’m aware, it’s more of a grey area then I make it seem (didn’t want to ramble really), I’d argue at the least the mythology tag’s wiki page should be written to say what it does and doesn’t cover due to the overlap, I’ll confess part of this autism is the fact I typically use the phrase “Germanic Paganism” rather then Norse as the term for it, my main worry was confusion due to the LARGE overlap between the 2 tags/
By rambling I meant IK it’s not that cut and dry, but just said a clean split as I doubt the taggers here would care about rambles about stories about Wotan being turned into ones about the “Wandering/Eternal Jew” (yes that is where the Nazi propaganda movie got it’s name if you weren’t aware (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wandering_Jew) later on and the like
Damian0358 said:
How can you argue that's what the tag was made for when you weren't the one to make it? That's you forcing your interpretation upon the tag. And why should it be split? Folklore is often derived from myth, and there's nothing about the Wolpertinger in the post that specifically says that it only exists due to Germany being Christianized.
It’s long post-Christianization if you look at Wikipedia, regardless my point is the myths are damn near identical to thr norse ones, so would at the least suggest explaning in the wiki page for it what it is and is not to be used for due to the overlap
Space_Force_Detective said:
It’s long post-Christianization if you look at Wikipedia, regardless my point is the myths are damn near identical to thr norse ones, so would at the least suggest explaning in the wiki page for it what it is and is not to be used for due to the overlap
The only one who's hung up about this is you, the votes on the BUR make this clear. The only way your arguments would make sense is if you also argued for Norse mythology to be renamed Germanic mythology, which also wouldn't be correct.
Damian0358 said:
The only one who's hung up about this is you, the votes on the BUR make this clear. The only way your arguments would make sense is if you also argued for Norse mythology to be renamed Germanic mythology, which also wouldn't be correct.
My point was splitting the post-Christian myths, IK that’s not happening so as I said later the Wikipage should be written to say what it does and doesn’t cover.
Space_Force_Detective said:
My point was splitting the post-Christian myths, IK that’s not happening so as I said later the Wikipage should be written to say what it does and doesn’t cover.
>Post-Christian myths
No matter how you look at it, it's still mythos, it doesn't matter if it's post or pre Christian myths so what's the point of splitting it? Might as well split post-Christian myths of Greek and Roman mythos/folklore
The bulk update request #50148 (forum #396518) has been rejected by @evazion.
