BUR #50161 has been rejected.
create implication black_mesa_(game) -> half-life_1
It's a remake of the original half life.
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BUR #50161 has been rejected.
create implication black_mesa_(game) -> half-life_1
It's a remake of the original half life.
It's one post. How different is it from the base game? Could this not just be tagged as Half-Life 1?
WRS said:
It's one post. How different is it from the base game? Could this not just be tagged as Half-Life 1?
It's somewhat different but reasonably faithful, that art has the tag due to the Background being from it (They came out over 20 years apart if we're going by BM's launch date), regardless it is arguable to be an alias as they're not THAT different.
BUR #50181 has been rejected.
create alias black_mesa_(game) -> half-life_1
For voting purposes, honestly it's arguable either way as BM is reasonably faithful though does have changes (such as female scientists is one that comes to mind)
It's a fan remake. If an artwork is somehow specifically of it then it should be acknowledged. An alias doesn't make any sense to me.
I've not played Half Life 1, but I have played Black Mesa. It's not a 1:1 remake but the general plot progression is the same. Black Mesa's Xen is completely visually distinctive though.
Spatula22 said:
It's a fan remake. If an artwork is somehow specifically of it then it should be acknowledged. An alias doesn't make any sense to me.
I've not played Half Life 1, but I have played Black Mesa. It's not a 1:1 remake but the general plot progression is the same. Black Mesa's Xen is completely visually distinctive though.
And when art is posted that is very obviously from Black Mesa and not in any way possibly that of Half Life 1, then the tags can be unaliased and implied.
Until then, this is an unnecessary padding tag applied to a single post that failed the queue. If not for the active BURs in this thread it probably would've been gardened already.
The actual answer there would actually be to just let the tag exist and see how it pans out before deciding what to do with the tag, like how Elden Ring: Shadow of the Erdtree and Elden Ring Nightreign were left as independent tags until enough time passed that we figured out what to do with them. I haven't played either of the games in the BUR so I don't know exactly, mainly why I framed it as a question rather than a rhetorical "this is wrong". Space and anyone else who are familiar with the copyright are better suited to explain the distinction to help voters/the admins reviewing the BUR.
The tag can continue to exist but if it's not getting any uploads, it will get automatically retired. That's why I want to check if this will actually get posts and if those posts actually have substantially taggable differences from the source material it derives itself from.
Spatula22 said:
Right, it's one tagging on one deleted post. If it must be killed, seems more ideal to just remove the tag from the post and save a potential future person from having to request an unaliasing.
I did that in another case of Space's single-tagging adventures and got yelled at for it (forum #396071), so here we are.
WRS said:
The actual answer there would actually be to just let the tag exist and see how it pans out before deciding what to do with the tag, like how Elden Ring: Shadow of the Erdtree and Elden Ring Nightreign were left as independent tags until enough time passed that we figured out what to do with them. I haven't played either of the games in the BUR so I don't know exactly, mainly why I framed it as a question rather than a rhetorical "this is wrong". Space and anyone else who are familiar with the copyright are better suited to explain the distinction to help voters/the admins reviewing the BUR.
The tag can continue to exist but if it's not getting any uploads, it will get automatically retired. That's why I want to check if this will actually get posts and if those posts actually have substantially taggable differences from the source material it derives itself from.
I've played Half Life 1 but not Black Mesa, and there's nothing I can see in this image that screams that this isn't HL1.
Historyanon said:
And when art is posted that is very obviously from Black Mesa and not in any way possibly that of Half Life 1, then the tags can be unaliased and implied.
Until then, this is an unnecessary padding tag applied to a single post that failed the queue. If not for the active BURs in this thread it probably would've been gardened already.
The reason the art in question has the BM tag is due to it having a Game screenshot background of BM if anyone didn’t know, probably should have said that lol.
Historyanon said:
I did that in another case of Space's single-tagging adventures and got yelled at for it (forum #396071), so here we are.
That was my mistake because I saw two post versions and didn't realise they were both on the same post with one being done almost a year ago. That's why I said at the end of that post that for the particular case in question it was fine but just be mindful when you're manually nuking a tag that way, particularly either if it's a tag from a long time ago, if it has a few posts to it or if the removal could be seen as contentious. People will see something like that being acceptable and then think it's okay to do the same for other tags. See topic #31737 for example.
There's few cases where it's okay to unilaterally swap tags like that; far more where it isn't.
Speaking of, I uploaded some art of a mod for Half-Life called Sven Coop, given this thread I figure I should ask should Sven be tagged. post #10232270
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The bulk update request #50161 (forum #396564) has been rejected by @evazion.
The bulk update request #50181 (forum #396602) has been rejected by @evazion.