new tag: indirect incest

BUR #52737 is pending approval.

mass update favgroup:50491 -> indirect_incest

a tag for incest without sex like watching porn of a relative or masturbating to them

i think what you're going for is already covered by brocon or siscon, but these tags appear to be terribly underutilized, and typing all that out is clunky so i'd support an umbrella tag to unify the two.

edit: forgot there's more than just sibling relationships, so that has no bearing on the validity of this tag. other two points stand.

Can the people voting this down provide an argument on why this is a bad idea of a tag?

incest without sex like watching porn of a relative

The first thing I have thought about indirect_incest is that NTR with a relative like post #1772723 or post #4910225 is the indirect incest. I think the tag name isn't clear enough. Plus, does indirect_kiss between relatives means indirect_incest (post #6148392)?

nonamethanks said:

Can the people voting this down provide an argument on why this is a bad idea of a tag?

I feel like this should just fall under the normal incest tag, or implied incest if you prefer that.

implied incest doesn't feel like the right call for this kind of post. it's pretty overtly incestual to be masturbating to the thought of a relative. whether or not you choose to file it under incest, it still leaves a gap in searchability of the scenarios that would be covered by this tag, which is the real issue.

wingdings said:

implied incest doesn't feel like the right call for this kind of post. it's pretty overtly incestual to be masturbating to the thought of a relative. whether or not you choose to file it under incest, it still leaves a gap in searchability of the scenarios that would be covered by this tag, which is the real issue.

Unfortunately our *_implied tags pull double duty for actual implied things and for "we all know but we just can't see". I personally wouldn't be opposed to some sort of separation like this, but I'd like to see it done for yuri, yaoi etc as well then (though this "indirect" proposal wouldn't cover all weird usages of implied).

don't know what the state of our implied yuri/implied yaoi tags is, but if they share the same problem, that's bad. when i think of implied_x i think of allusions with some degree of plausible deniability, not indirect overt acts.

The wiki for implied yuri says "Images wherein a female is expressing sexual or romantic affection toward an inanimate object resembling another female can be another example of implied yuri (post #6821720)."

Searches like implied_yaoi masturbation have many examples such as "man masturbating while thinking about another man", which would be in line with this proposed tag. If that isn't desirable, those two tags should also be split into something like what this topic proposes and genuine "implied" situations.

i think it shouldn't stop at just masturbation or otherwise sexual acts. consider the classic example of expressing affection towards a partner's clothes, or simply just thinking of someone in a romantic way. or the entire baking my long-distance bf into a cookie tag. these are all scenarios that would constitute an indirect_* tag in my eyes because they leave no room for interpretation.