Application of 2girls/3girls/etc. tags

Hillside_Moose said:
That's really stretching the definition of solo. Most of 2girls solo shouldn't even have solo.

Since this is relevant to the discussion at hand, I'll post an dmal exchange between me and Cyberia-Mix here. This is taken from mails about the myon thread:

Cyberia-Mix said:
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post #754953 is tagged with Remilia because you need a way to tell with tags that there's something about the character in there. Having no tag to indicate Remilia's presence would be worse imho. You see the hat joke a lot with Mystia to implicate she's been cooked/eaten yet you don't really actually have Mystia in the picture, and she's still tagged since the joke is a meaningful element of the picture.
Though all this part would probably need a global tag for any situation where an image depicts a character's distinctive item without its owner (ultimate case post #549441). To some extend you could even apply this to Youmu if you consider half of her is missing in one way or another (though in our dimension this would only work in one direction).

I don't think I would ever skip character tagging actually. Even things like post #502936 or post #801739 are worth having the characters tagged to me.

You said:
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For now, I tag posts like post #502936 with focus on a single character as solo.
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Cyberia-Mix said:
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Good point.
I used to tag solo/2girls etc. only on posts where chartags:X was misleading (myon, pyonta and such). I'm still not sure what's the best thing to do about that. Solo has always been so undertagged that chartags:1 works infinitely better.

See also:

T5J8F8 said:
Would solo also be used for tags with one focused character, including when people, often undetailed, are part of the image's background?

Since Mysterio006 and I established to solo tag (and later Cyberia-Mix), the criteria under which we applied the tag has heavily influenced the current use of the tag. (like not counting character_dolls when tagging solo)
Still, there were already rules set in place for the solo tag about "multiple viewpoints" in forum #21359.
The question is: does this rule (still) make sense? We know that the character on both sides of a dakimakura is the same. Mysterio and many others ignore that rule in the wiki and unless there are arguments against it, I'll do the same from now on.

EDIT:

1girl 2girls should be empty.
post #900117
See tag history:
As mentioned, I tag such images solo.
Has both 2girls (Mysterio) and 1girl Anelaid.

If its just a hand of another character, or something like that, I don't feel comfortable tagging it as "2girls" because I think that anyone using the tags wants to see two characters in the 'flesh' and body-parts don't apply for me.

S1eth said:
The question is: does this rule (still) make sense? We know that the character on both sides of a dakimakura is the same. Mysterio and many others ignore that rule in the wiki and unless there are arguments against it, I'll do the same from now on.

I remember the original argument against solo applying to multiple bodies like the images under dakimakura was that chartag:1 already finds single character pictures regardless of how many bodies they have in an image. In order to make solo a unique and non-redundant tag it was to only apply to single body images. I think that's still fair point.

As for post #900117, I agree with Anelaid; the *girls tags should apply to bodies, not just appendages or implications.

In the case of projected inset such as post #962445, would that count as 2girls? Including situations where the character and the inset are wearing the same thing.

Anonymous9000 said:
In the case of projected inset such as post #962445, would that count as 2girls? Including situations where the character and the inset are wearing the same thing.

I say treat it like zoom layer or dual persona, it is just one person in multi shots.

Zoom layer is treated as 1girl,
dual persona as 2girls...

I am not familiar with the series, but assuming that both are the same girl and they aren't interacting with each other (since it's an inset), it would count as 1girl.

Most of the time a zoom layer is mostly cropped out of the image or blurry and what have you, so it's more like a reflection of a character than an actual "body."

Dual persona, assuming the second persona is still humanoid (and the same gender), should always be 2girls or 2boys. In post #962445, even if it's an inset, they're distinctly two people. The semantics of whether or not they happen to be the same person or not shouldn't matter to 2girls. It's just an image containing two bodies.

zoom layer is 1girl since its a bunch of photos making up a single picture, which is of the 1girl.

For dual persona, it depends on the context. If its an inset its 1girl/1boy because to me, its still 1girl for the intents of what people are looking for, just in different costumes.

post #1143319 is an example of what I'm talking about, I wouldn't have tagged it as 2girls since its Miku in two costumes in the context of the image. I'd tag it 1girl but not tag solo, or something, but dual persona is just really iffy.