Unusually high scores?

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Maybe danbooru has just gotten more popular, or this is something that merely happens on occasion...

(both NSFW) post #1178887 and post #1179423 were posted relatively very recently, yet have garnered very large scores in that timespan (40+ and 30+ respectively, within a day of being uploaded). The latter I could understand as touhou is so popular and it is a pretty nice pic, but megaman never had that level of popularity here.

Is it foul play, or some recent change in the system, or is it just business as usual and I'm merely seeing two rare cases at once?

Updated by Log

There are a lot of images that have been deleted due to being samples and not the full size images. When parented posts are deleted, their favorites are immediately moved to the parent post, as DakuTree mentioned. I don't think the score itself actually gets transferred, though. I believe what happens with the score depends on how many privileged+ favorites there were. If there were 30 privileged+ favoriting the image, then the score will go down by 30 on the deleted child post, and then up by 30 on the parent. That's why the score on some "new" images like that went up so rapidly.

Updated by EB

EB said:
I believe what happens with the score depends on how many contributor+ favorites there were.

This, except it's priv+ favourites we are talking about.

And let's not forget unpriviledged members (as for example is the OP) can't see favourites list, so no wonder such score peak can be mysterious at least from their perspective.

Log said:
No, scores don't get transferred, just for the record.

But every transfered favourite is rewarded by +1 score as usual.

EB said:
That's why the score on some "new" images like that went up so rapidly.

I would add that the score boost tends to appear more surprising the older the image is, from all the users who were members at the time they favorited the post and have been invited/promoted since.

On posts at least 2-3 years old counting favs from priv+ users commonly turns up a number higher than the image's score.
So you can easily find yourself with an "unexpected" +30 boost from the child post's deletion, even though its score was somewhat lower.

Updated by Cyberia-Mix

Since this was brought up, it's probably worth mentioning that votes expire after a few days and users can upvote or downvote a post as many times as they want, so foul play isn't theoretically impossible. I doubt there's anyone who cares enough about a pic to go that far though, but you never know.

Fred1515 said:
Since this was brought up, it's probably worth mentioning that votes expire after a few days and users can upvote or downvote a post as many times as they want, so foul play isn't theoretically impossible. I doubt there's anyone who cares enough about a pic to go that far though, but you never know.

Votes expire? I can't say I have ever noticed something like this.

Votes don't expire, only the registration of a specific user having voted on a given post does. If a person votes something up or down, after a number of weeks, the system forgets specifically that that person did so (otherwise it'd have to keep track of every vote every user made forever), but it doesn't cause the score to revert.

Theoretically this could be abused, but in practice, I don't think it really is, except by accident by users rediscovering things they forgot they voted for in the past. Anything posted in the last few weeks with a high score would not be related to this mechanism being abused.

Updated by Shinjidude

Shinjidude said:
Votes don't expire, only the registration of a specific user having voted on a given post does. If a person votes something up or down, after a number of weeks, the system forgets specifically that that person did so (otherwise it'd have to keep track of every vote every user made forever), but it doesn't cause the score to revert.

Right, that's what I wanted to say but I phrased it poorly.

Is it really a big deal for the system to keep track of everyone's votes forever though? Can't be worse than all the other things it has to keep track of (favorites, pools, etc.) but I guess it might be somehow different, I don't know much about such things.

It's not a big deal for the system to track votes forever but there hasn't been an instance of someone abusing the ability to vote more than once so going through the work of redoing the voting system entirely from scratch for a non-issue especially when there are hundreds of actual bugs to fix and continual improvements that actually improve the experience over "oh no this post was not liked by many people it is entirely composed of one person voting repeatedly over the period of two years!!"

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