Before anyone go hating on them, it's actually not all that weird to use humans as fertilizer(heck, most of you think Yuuka did). And it's not like they killed the baby, they only use the corpses. Actually here in my place, that's the secret of our soil. Other than because of the volcanoes, the land where we plant our crops used to be a war zone, skirmish areas among the villagers, or the place where we just dump excess corpse. I know this sounds disgusting, but human corpses make a really good nourishment for the land. Of course, we don't just tell it to anyone.
I'm just saying: If they're religiously conscientious and advocate peace its really strange for the artist to think they go around desecrating corpses for any reason. It's like assuming Gandhi was into scat play.
Explosion said: I'm just saying: If they're religiously conscientious and advocate peace its really strange for the artist to think they go around desecrating corpses for any reason. It's like assuming Gandhi was into scat play.
I know. I don't really like the way we do it here too but it works and there aren't many options. And this is Touhou we're talking about. The authors can make anything happen however they want it. This isn't so strange compared to something like Love and Peace. I'm sure you have read that, if you haven't, then it's up to you.
Fertilization through burial and natural decomposition is one thing, but smashing a newly deceased human infant corpse into fertilizer steps over the line just a tad when you're an avowed pacifist living on the doorstep of the Human Village attempting to make peace between human and youkai.
Byakuren might be flawed, favors youkai, whatever. However, her portrayal in Love and Peace and even this are both utterly ridiculous and over the top. It doesn't even matter that one portrayal is better than the other.
And this is Touhou we're talking about. The authors can make anything happen however they want it.
Stud_McDuudertin said: I'm not too sure on that one. I find it odd that a baby died just when they needed a new corpse.
In dubio reo. Infant death is certainly nothing unusual at the times the villagers still live in (in fact, in some regions children weren't considered as full humans until they survived to a certain age, making their death less painful) and I don't think that anyone already trust Eirin far enough, that she could change that fact already...
Still, of course, the Myouren crew is depicted in the best case as morally dubious, but not as hideous as in Stripe and Pattern's work!
UnderneathTheWaves said: Fertilization through burial and natural decomposition is one thing, but smashing a newly deceased human infant corpse into fertilizer steps over the line just a tad when you're an avowed pacifist living on the doorstep of the Human Village attempting to make peace between human and youkai.
Byakuren might be flawed, favors youkai, whatever. However, her portrayal in Love and Peace and even this are both utterly ridiculous and over the top. It doesn't even matter that one portrayal is better than the other.
I disagree, but that's another matter.
I REALLY don't know what's with the trend of the Japanese artists to turn Byakuren into a horrible baby-eating monster, simply because she wishes for peace. It's like no one can be good, ever.
Guys, it's pretty clear she's doing this in an attempt to diminish Shou's natural bloodlust (which Shou can't seem to control by herself anymore) by adding some "meat flavor" to the ground. She ain't doing it for shits and giggles (altough the way the artist constantly draws her with that huge smile can give that impression)
RaptorJesus said: I REALLY don't know what's with the trend of the Japanese artists to turn Byakuren into a horrible baby-eating monster, simply because she wishes for peace. It's like no one can be good, ever.
I REALLY don't know what's with the trend of the Western fanbase to turn Byakuren into some faultless "youkai messiah", simply because she wishes for equality between humans and youkai. It's like no one can be morally questionable, ever.
Sagus222 said: Guys, it's pretty clear she's doing this in an attempt to diminish Shou's natural bloodlust (which Shou can't seem to control by herself anymore) by adding some "meat flavor" to the ground. She ain't doing it for shits and giggles (altough the way the artist constantly draws her with that huge smile can give that impression)
Still doesn't make the act any less morally questionable though.
UnderneathTheWaves said: Fertilization through burial and natural decomposition is one thing, but smashing a newly deceased human infant corpse into fertilizer steps over the line just a tad when you're an avowed pacifist living on the doorstep of the Human Village attempting to make peace between human and youkai.
Exactly. She totally has no respect for human values and morals for someone who wants coexistence between humans and youkai.
monhan said: Before anyone go hating on them, it's actually not all that weird to use humans as fertilizer(heck, most of you think Yuuka did).
Thus making Yuuka an evil youkai and an enemy of humanity
monhan said: And it's not like they killed the baby, they only use the corpses. Actually here in my place, that's the secret of our soil. Other than because of the volcanoes, the land where we plant our crops used to be a war zone, skirmish areas among the villagers, or the place where we just dump excess corpse. I know this sounds disgusting, but human corpses make a really good nourishment for the land. Of course, we don't just tell it to anyone.
So, do you smash newly deceased baby corpses into a pulp before using them as fertilizers?
I actually like this setting. Turning people into fertilizer is no different than killing Youkai to eat or make tools with their bones.
After all, turning corpses into food is much better than leaving then in the middle of nowhere as worm food. We come from the earth and to it we shall return.
Lightdreamer said: So, do you smash newly deceased baby corpses into a pulp before using them as fertilizers?
If situation demands, then yes, we do. We don't really had it easy there(I'm off studying, so it's been a while since I was there), with vegetables as the main source for food, sometimes we had to take drastic measures. There are times when we had to use the elders or sick ones who are close to dying and we didn't have any way of treating or taking care of them anymore. Of course, we won't force them. We only do it if they are willing to lend their body for us. If they didn't, we would take care of them until they pass away and use the corpses when we had to. Also as mentioned in other comments, the death of infants is not uncommon there. Only few were lucky enough to survive. We will use their corpses, with the consent of the family, if we had to.
If you want to know the process, then it's pretty much how it's shown in this doujin. First we'll pray for the newly deceased ones or the ones who were willing and then we'll promise to take care of their remaining family. After that, you know the rest. Of course it wasn't easy for us, most of the men will feel like shit after we are done.
Really, one of the reason I uploaded and translated this is to let people know that these kind of things exist. The fact that it's Touhou increases it's availability. If I just tell it myself, they'll think I'm crazy or something. If this somehow offends you or others then I'll apologize. But honestly, I just can't see this act as something evil. I guess after playing Saya no Uta and similar games, my judgment of good and evil isn't like most people's anymore.
Lastly, let's think of it like this. If they didn't suppress Shou and let her instincts go wild, what are the chances she won't target the humans? Byakuren and the others are not allowed to kill, so they can only keep her down, and that won't work every time. Also note that this method can be applied to other man-eating Youkai, as Yamame commented that she might be willing to hold on from eating meat. Imagine if they all gone mad like Shou, who knows how much damage it'll cause.
Well, that's my opinion. Sorry for the wall of text.
[EDIT] Wait, since when Yuuka is an evil youkai? Last time I checked she's just a youkai girl who loves flowers and only attacked if provoked, like, really, anybody else, in canon. Those silly fanons...
monhan said: [EDIT] Wait, since when Yuuka is an evil youkai? Last time I checked she's just a youkai girl who loves flowers and only attacked if provoked, like, really, anybody else, in canon. Those silly fanons...
She's simply an aggressive Youkai, then fanon warped that to turned her into some sort of she-devil. In the same exact vein that Ran said she cares about Chen and fanon warped that also into some sort of Hentai Fox Lolicon personality for her.
Tetsamaru said: She's simply an aggressive Youkai, then fanon warped that to turned her into some sort of she-devil. In the same exact vein that Ran said she cares about Chen and fanon warped that also into some sort of Hentai Fox Lolicon personality for her.
I know. I'm fine if they only portray her as aggressive or violent, but to say she's evil is just too much.
Lightdreamer said: I REALLY don't know what's with the trend of the Western fanbase to turn Byakuren into some faultless "youkai messiah", simply because she wishes for equality between humans and youkai. It's like no one can be morally questionable, ever.
Yes, because wishing for people to be NOT RACIST is a bad, morally gray thing! Great logic!
It is a mild resolution to co-existence. Would you rather the Youkai use you, one of the living, as food or use your dead to sate themselves for the most part?
Dalveska said: It is a mild resolution to co-existence. Would you rather the Youkai use you, one of the living, as food or use your dead to sate themselves for the most part?
Neither. We neither need nor want such "co-existence".
A couple things that you need to keep in mind before going off the rail here.
First off, these are Buddhist. In Buddist teachings, death is the triggering of rebirth. As such, it isn't quite the sad affair that it is in most religions. So long as the soul has been properly handed off, the physical remains aren't that important. Mostly they get cremated. In the poorer parts of the world they sometimes get taken out to the woods and left to be devoured. This act gives back to the world what once was a part of it. My point being that though this isn't something they do lightly, it isn't something unholy to them.
At this point there is nothing to indicate they did or even would kill a baby. If anything, someone older to make more fertilizer with would make more sense.
Canon Byakuren is neutral at best to humans. That doesn't make her evil anymore than it makes her a faultless messiah. Canon Byakuren is also perfectly willing to risk humans for youkai, especially a close friend.
To people disgusted by what they see here: Deal with the fact that Youkai are human predators and get weak and risk disappearing if they try to deny this. This Hijiri actually deserves a Peace Nobel Prize for thinking in a way that allows for: • Humans not being killed by youkai • Youkai not getting weaker by not getting their diet • Buddhists getting their proper vegetarian food
All this while defending her friends and performing a respected community duty. That some people in this very site find disgusting that they use the bodies after respectfully disposing them (an use that's just a faster version of what happens naturally, anyway) is proof that they need to act in secret.
I hope this is actually the canon Myourenji, because they're awesome.
_cf said: To people disgusted by what they see here: Deal with the fact that Youkai are human predators and get weak and risk disappearing if they try to deny this. This Hijiri actually deserves a Peace Nobel Prize for thinking in a way that allows for: • Humans not being killed by youkai • Youkai not getting weaker by not getting their diet • Buddhists getting their proper vegetarian food
All this while defending her friends and performing a respected community duty. That some people in this very site find disgusting that they use the bodies after respectfully disposing them (an use that's just a faster version of what happens naturally, anyway) is proof that they need to act in secret.
I hope this is actually the canon Myourenji, because they're awesome.
Look, why do you care about the youkai so much? You said it yourself that they are human predators, and you welcome that fact like it's an okay thing to be.
And you're saying it's okay for them to disregard and disrespect our ways, the humans' ways?
Also, I seriously hope you're joking with that canon remark.
Funny things is, certain type of Youkai like Kamishirasawa Keine, the Tengu, and the Kappas can coexist peaceably among humans because they seem to bring benefits for humanity even though in their own way.
Lightdreamer said: Look, why do you care about the youkai so much? You said it yourself that they are human predators, and you welcome that fact like it's an okay thing to be.
And you're saying it's okay for them to disregard and disrespect our ways, the humans' ways?
Also, I seriously hope you're joking with that canon remark.
I'm totally serious about the canon remark. I'm hoping future products indicate the myouren crew is doing exactly that to survive.
Regarding my care for the youkai, they're human predators, and this is not even their fault. By canon, they're created as a by-product of humans' imaginations and fears. If it's not clear so far, most of them don't ask to be born and only exist thanks to us. This makes us responsible for them.
I mean, seriously, wtf is this about "why do you care about the youkai so much"? They're not mindless beings! You're supposed to feel empathy for other thinking, feelings beings. And you're supposed to admire if one of them manages to figure a way to avoid the violence that was expected in both species' relationship.
The alternative, of course, is wholesale youkai genocide. Then you get to enjoy your world without creativity, which it's what you canonically get when you squash magic.
In theory, if the youkai are created by human fears and imaginations...than there is no way to kill them all off, as humans will continue to have fears and imaginations, creating more (or recreating existing) youkai.
One can either find a way to negate the problems between the two, or be locked in endless slaughter generation after generation as you will never get rid of all the youkai until every human is also either dead or without fear and imagination...and then are we even human after that?
And as pointed out, in Buddhism (a real world religion), what is left after death is but a shell. The soul has passed on, and the shell if basically just that, a shell to be disposed of.
_cf said: They're not mindless beings! You're supposed to feel empathy for other thinking, feelings beings.
Well, you said it yourself that they are murderers. I have no sympathy for murderers.
_cf said: And you're supposed to admire if one of them manages to figure a way to avoid the violence that was expected in both species' relationship.
Not this way though.
You know that there's a way in canon for youkai to stop eating humans that doesn't involve pummeling freshly dead babies into fertilizers, right?
_cf said: The alternative, of course, is wholesale youkai genocide. Then you get to enjoy your world without creativity, which it's what you canonically get when you squash magic.
I'm perfectly content with the real world, thank you.
But honestly, you don't necessarily need youkai for magic. Look at the Lunarians.
Lightdreamer said: Well, you said it yourself that they are murderers. I have no sympathy for murderers.
Here's the thing. Shikieiki fucking Yamaxanadu told Yuuka to be more youkai-like, so youkai eating people isn't even "wrong" as far as Gensokyo's highest moral authority is concerned. They kill people AND they're not murderers, just as humans aren't murderers for killing cattle. Get over this.
You know that there's a way in canon for youkai to stop eating humans that doesn't involve pummeling freshly dead babies into fertilizers, right?
I don't know such way, care to point it? What I know is that Gensokyo pulls humans from the outside exactly so that the youkai inside can eat them. Because they need it (most of them need it, at least. I'm sure there are exceptions, like Kogasa that only needs to scare people).
I'm perfectly content with the real world, thank you.
But honestly, you don't necessarily need youkai for magic. Look at the Lunarians.
While it's actually cooler and safer to exist in a world without sentient human-eating monsters that would necessite rights, if the talk was about RL it would end with "lol, youkais, lol", so I don't understand why you brought it.
In the world that contains Gensokyo, Lunarians are merely humans and gods that went to live on the moon. They still require magic to do work, and magic weakens or goes away without youkai. You'll notice that revolting as the youkai feeding needs can be, the Lunarians don't lift one finger to stop them. (In fact, they put earthlings and youkai in the same "impure beasts" bin, that's how nice they are.)
_cf said: Here's the thing. Shikieiki fucking Yamaxanadu told Yuuka to be more youkai-like, so youkai eating people isn't even "wrong" as far as Gensokyo's highest moral authority is concerned. They kill people AND they're not murderers, just as humans aren't murderers for killing cattle. Get over this.
Fun fact: Cattle are mindless beings, unlike us humans who are thinking, feelings beings. You said it yourself that we ought to sympathize with thinking, feeling beings.
Also, I don't care what Shikieki thinks. My view of morality doesn't come from her.
_cf said: I don't know such way, care to point it? What I know is that Gensokyo pulls humans from the outside exactly so that the youkai inside can eat them. Because they need it (most of them need it, at least. I'm sure there are exceptions, like Kogasa that only needs to scare people).
Become Byakuren's apprentice to become a youkai Bodhisattva.
_cf said: While it's actually cooler and safer to exist in a world without sentient human-eating monsters that would necessite rights, if the talk was about RL it would end with "lol, youkais, lol", so I don't understand why you brought it.
Because the Outside World = Real world.
If Gensokyo really exists, then I, as a resident of the Outside World, wouldn't care if the youkai go extinct or magic disappears.
_cf said: Magic weakens or goes away without youkai.
Now where did you get that assumption?
_cf said: You'll notice that revolting as the youkai feeding needs can be, the Lunarians don't lift one finger to stop them. (In fact, they put earthlings and youkai in the same "impure beasts" bin, that's how nice they are.)
That's because they don't care about both humans and youkai. Why would they go all helping humans to vanquish youkai?
Since you brought up cattle, why don't the youkai just use animals as fertilizer? I haven't really read this whole doujinshi, but in canon Gensoukyou, youkai are not required to "kill" or "eat" humans. Anyway, why do they deceive themselves with those vegetables? I don't think vegetarions would agree with this.
S1eth said: Since you brought up cattle, why don't the youkai just use animals as fertilizer? I haven't really read this whole doujinshi, but in canon Gensoukyou, youkai are not required to "kill" or "eat" humans. Anyway, why do they deceive themselves with those vegetables? I don't think vegetarions would agree with this.
They're not just carnivorous. They're man eaters. And even in canon Gensokyo some (most?) youkai need to eat humans. I don't think they actually have to kill their food (Yamame probably has, because spiders only accept live prey), just eat them (as people from the SDM do).
Lightdreamer said: Become Byakuren's apprentice to become a youkai Bodhisattva.
This is what Byakuren says in SoPM. The same book that shows that Murasa keeps drowning people. Given some reactions in this very thread, saying that is her only option, anyway.
Lightdreamer said: Because the Outside World = Real world.
If Gensokyo really exists, then I, as a resident of the Outside World, wouldn't care if the youkai go extinct or magic disappears.
Oh dear, I didn't realize we were rp'ing here. Since we are, here's what happens when youkai go extinct and magic disappears: humans stop being creative. Touhou works based on eastern philosophies (who'd know?!) and humans and youkai exist in a system like yin & yang. Remove one of these forces and you destroy the system.
Lightdreamer said: Fun fact: Cattle are mindless beings, unlike us humans who are thinking, feelings beings. You said it yourself that we ought to sympathize with thinking, feeling beings.
Also, I don't care what Shikieki thinks. My view of morality doesn't come from her.
_cf said: Oh dear, I didn't realize we were rp'ing here. Since we are, here's what happens when youkai go extinct and magic disappears: humans stop being creative. Touhou works based on eastern philosophies (who'd know?!) and humans and youkai exist in a system like yin & yang. Remove one of these forces and you destroy the system.
So what if you "destroy the system"? And what do you exactly mean by "we'll stop being creative if youkai die"? I think we can even be more creative without all those fantastical things because we have to take the hard road instead.
Lightdreamer said: So what? It's still not the same level of sentience as the one we have.
Also, are you seriously comparing us humans to farm animals just to justify man-eating youkai?
That you support beings with a higher sentience level than us treating us as we treat cattle is duly noted (golden rule very much?).
Also, yes. I'm exactly comparing us to farm animals. One of the things youkai are is the shadow of humanity. People from ancient agrarian societies realized two things: 1) They need to eat cattle if they don't want to grow weak; and 2) Holy fuck, they need to eat cattle, beings that have feelings and distinct personalities (something that's kind of impossible to ignore when you're actually living besides them) so they needed to put that in some kind of holy context as a coping mechanism. See the kind of holy thinking I'm talking about here and here. In a world with youkai, the shadow of this kind of thinking creates man-eating youkai. (it's good that we don't live in that world, because I'd not want to meet the shadows created by how we currently treat our cattle)
See that "please, become our strength" Ichirin said to dead baby last page? That kind of thinking comes from RL human rituals before killing and consuming meat, as seen here.
The reverence they treated the dead baby last page is actually very telling, in particular when you compare it with Kyouko (a childish youkai, so one with less self control) drooling. They are being as nice and high minded as the circumstances allow, but by now I know you're not actually seeing the reverent behavior, because you cannot get over the "dead baby becomes paste" bit. That you still cannot get over that even after someone in these comments said that RL human beings in his part of the world have to do pretty much that to survive is also very telling.
But don't worry! Because Shikieiki actually says that's proper for us humans to exterminate youkai (she chastises Reimu for being too friendly to them), so you're actually validated by the very source of morals you didn't care about (and I'm disappointed you didn't notice that). Byakuren is working by a kind of morality that's about 3,000 years more advanced than the Enma's to seek something better than mutual extermination.
_cf said: That you support beings with a higher sentience level than us treating us as we treat cattle is duly noted (golden rule very much?).
Indeed.
I suppose God is one of those beings with higher sentience level than us humans.
_cf said: Also, yes. I'm exactly comparing us to farm animals. One of the things youkai are is the shadow of humanity. People from ancient agrarian societies realized two things: 1) They need to eat cattle if they don't want to grow weak; and 2) Holy fuck, they need to eat cattle, beings that have feelings and distinct personalities (something that's kind of impossible to ignore when you're actually living besides them) so they needed to put that in some kind of holy context as a coping mechanism. See the kind of holy thinking I'm talking about here and here. In a world with youkai, the shadow of this kind of thinking creates man-eating youkai. (it's good that we don't live in that world, because I'd not want to meet the shadows created by how we currently treat our cattle)
Interesting.
I suppose you would feel guilty of killing a friend you have formed an emotional bond with to eat them even though it is an animal.
Well, if people can fall in love and even marry a fictional character these days...
_cf said: See that "please, become our strength" Ichirin said to dead baby last page? That kind of thinking comes from RL human rituals before killing and consuming meat, as seen here.
The reverence they treated the dead baby last page is actually very telling, in particular when you compare it with Kyouko (a childish youkai, so one with less self control) drooling. They are being as nice and high minded as the circumstances allow, but by now I know you're not actually seeing the reverent behavior, because you cannot get over the "dead baby becomes paste" bit. That you still cannot get over that even after someone in these comments said that RL human beings in his part of the world have to do pretty much that to survive is also very telling.
Eh, I don't remember at all about the previous page. Thank you for reminding me about that.
But I still won't "get over it" because for starters, they don't even get permission to do that from the baby's parents. That's just disrespectful.
_cf said: But don't worry! Because Shikieiki actually says that's proper for us humans to exterminate youkai (she chastises Reimu for being too friendly to them), so you're actually validated by the very source of morals you didn't care about (and I'm disappointed you didn't notice that). Byakuren is working by a kind of morality that's about 3,000 years more advanced than the Enma's to seek something better than mutual extermination.
And I just remembered that fact.
Still, if Byakuren truly wants a true co-existence between humans and youkai, perhaps she should start by giving some respect to the humans. If you're going to use the baby, ask for permission first. And if you don't get it, then don't do it.
Doing stuff behind their back like this is just waiting for disaster. How could you hope for a true co-existence without honesty?
_cf said: They're not just carnivorous. They're man eaters. And even in canon Gensokyo some (most?) youkai need to eat humans. I don't think they actually have to kill their food (Yamame probably has, because spiders only accept live prey), just eat them (as people from the SDM do).
Remember Rumia's BAiJR article? She just flies around aimlessly.
_cf said: Oh dear, I didn't realize we were rp'ing here. Since we are, here's what happens when youkai go extinct and magic disappears: humans stop being creative. Touhou works based on eastern philosophies (who'd know?!) and humans and youkai exist in a system like yin & yang. Remove one of these forces and you destroy the system.
Just commenting on this one. ZUN had the world where youkai is almost extinct, Mary and Renko's world.
From the good side, human started explaining things with reason and scientific method. Youkai, magic, gods, all those are merely stop-gap measure human take to explain the world when they still don't have enough understanding about mechanism of the world. Isn't that the exact reason Yukari and the other great youkai made their sanctuary ? Human starts to lose importance of the magical side of the world. They're no longer something "real" but downgraded into something that's "must be fun if they exist, but that's just fiction".
The bad side of Mary's world though is that they ignore anything that can't be explained with logic. But then Mary is not exactly neutral or siding with human, she desired that fantasy to be real.
Literally the only one canonically a man-eater is Rumia... who is too fucking stupid to eat anyone. Also, the youkai beasts are stated to basically be angry rabid versions of regular animals, 'morality' or not.
Oh, and Eiki was telling Yuuka to scare more humans, not eat them.
RaptorJesus said: Literally the only one canonically a man-eater is Rumia... who is too fucking stupid to eat anyone. Also, the youkai beasts are stated to basically be angry rabid versions of regular animals, 'morality' or not.
Oh, and Eiki was telling Yuuka to scare more humans, not eat them.
And Meiling, and the Scarlets, and Mystia, and Yamame, and Kisume (well, maybe she doesn't eat the human after she kills him or her for the head). Youkai kill people, this is what they do. People by their turn exterminate youkai.
I think there's a pattern in Touhou in which childish youkai are the actually dangerous ones, probably because they're still close to the angry rabid beast state. Vampires and other "demons" may be in violation of this rule. The older youkai probably learn to subsist on something else, or at least are polite and discrete enough about their man eating habits that this is not a problem anymore.
Again, there are some explicit exceptions to the general rule that youkai eat people, like Kogasa.
Kamaki said: Massive freakin' discussion over some baby whacking.
Though seriously, I'd really like to know what the rest of this page says.
Almost 100% sure that's actual buddhist chants, that which Japan being Japan could very well be the japanese transliteration of the chinese transliteration of Pali, or something equally silly. So the translation is actually not important because they're probably doing the buddhist version of this trope.
Also thanks to Orin's symposium page we've basically been let in on the fact that Chen would've had to have eaten humans at some point to become a Nekomata.
"Humans are always food for youkai. And humans exterminate youkai so they won't be eaten. If the moon's power is ever in disorder, this balance will shatter. Reimu felt that this incident was a threat in that way." Imperishable Night Good Ending #1 - Reimu-Yukari
Seika said: The bad side of Mary's world though is that they ignore anything that can't be explained with logic. But then Mary is not exactly neutral or siding with human, she desired that fantasy to be real.
I enjoyed very much the doujin, but I'm enjoying more this discussion
It's not so much a "discussion" as "Lightbringer being very wrong AND narrow-minded (over wrong conclusions, no less), while _cf not only argues circles around Lightbringer, but does so with trufax."
I just read a bit of the comments but hell, not many see that they are putting a strain on Shou's desire of blood.
May sounds really disgusting and inhuman but what's wrong with using a corpse as fertilizer? Farmers do it almost everyday while their products are called good, chemical free, just that those are still, fairly, not humans'. In the first place, what make us humans so special anyway? We being selfconcious doesn't mean we can think of ourselves as superiors.
Still, smashing the baby's corpse was over doing it.
May sounds really disgusting and inhuman but what's wrong with using a corpse as fertilizer? Farmers do it almost everyday
No, they don't. And actually almost any country has laws that implicitly prohibit it (especially when the reason of death is unknown). If an animal died of some disease you would spread it all over the land. Also rotting parts of body releases different kinds of toxins into the ground. Even if youkai are immune to diseases they could harm their neighbours and wild animals around. This is not a rocket science, for centuries farmers bury/burn/compost animal corpses and not smash them into the the ground. Zounouse could try to do a basic research before drawing this.
Also this act just makes no sense. If inhabitants of Myouren temple do not treat alive people as cattle why don't they treat them the same after their death? In the end I doubt any farmer would compost a corpse of his daughter's dead cat.
f**ing know it it is the same troll from post #904110 who insist he was right
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無無明 亦無無明尽
乃至 無老死 亦無老死尽
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no ignorance and no end of ignorance,
up to no aging and death, and no end of aging and death;
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Avalokitesvara Bodhisattva,
when deeply practicing prajna-paramita,
clearly saw that the five skandhas are all empty,
and was saved from all suffering and distress.
Sariputra,
(from the Heart Sutra)*crash* *crash* *crash* (羯)諦羯諦波(羅羯諦)
波羅僧羯諦菩(提薩婆訶)
"gyate gyate hara gyate
hara so gyate boji sowa ka"得阿耨多羅三藐(三菩提)
and attain anuttara-samyak-sambodhi.
