Mother/grandmother Mikasa isn't around yet for the battleships. Otherwise Kongo is as close to being the mother of the battleship around here and she's not really suited for it like Houshou is for the carriers.
Mother/grandmother Mikasa isn't around yet for the battleships. Otherwise Kongo is as close to being the mother of the battleship around here and she's not really suited for it like Houshou is for the carriers.
Mikasa isn't the battleship's mother. She was a per-dreadnaught that has little in common of the battleships in game. She wasn't even the first Japanese pre-dreadnaguht, not by a long shot, she's just famous because she was flagship for a critical battle. Calling her their mother would be only somewhat less inaccurate that calling USS Constitution the mother of current USN Guided Missie Frigates.
Though really I think it's more a matter of depiction of the general groups in fanon as much as anything to due with technicalities of age.
The standard carriers are very commonly seen to be basically a family that lives and spends most of their time together. This is often implicitly implied even in works focusing on a particular one of them. Within that context then, them all having a common mother figure fairly naturally flows since they seem like a family. This doesn't really seem to carry over with battleships however. You rarely see Fuso, Hyuuga, or Nagato showing up in a story about one of the others and it's almost never implied that the battleships live or even spend much time together.
Because they're all fragmented like that them having a single 'mother' figure doesn't seem as natural because they don't seem like much of a family to start with. Fuso for instance is technically the oldest battleship in (and likely to ever be in) game and has the temperament (indeed in various Nishimura fleet works she very often seems to take this role). Yet she was never morphed into a more general motherly figure for the group like Houshou was for the carriers by fanon.
Mikasa does have an advantage though. She was built at the same yard as Kongo, just two generations earlier (Next step was Dreadnoughts, then Super Dreadnoughts, of which the Kongos and Fuso are considered a part. The lineage still effects battlecruisers). Grandma Mikasa.
She's also the only one of the really old battleships that is still around.
As for old gran Constitution. Great-great (great) grandma of the entire Navy (for all practical purposes, rather than realistic purposes).
Though it be nice to know what is actually going on in the comic.
Mikasa isn't the battleship's mother. She was a per-dreadnaught that has little in common of the battleships in game. She wasn't even the first Japanese pre-dreadnaguht, not by a long shot, she's just famous because she was flagship for a critical battle. Calling her their mother would be only somewhat less inaccurate that calling USS Constitution the mother of current USN Guided Missie Frigates.
Though really I think it's more a matter of depiction of the general groups in fanon as much as anything to due with technicalities of age.
The standard carriers are very commonly seen to be basically a family that lives and spends most of their time together. This is often implicitly implied even in works focusing on a particular one of them. Within that context then, them all having a common mother figure fairly naturally flows since they seem like a family. This doesn't really seem to carry over with battleships however. You rarely see Fuso, Hyuuga, or Nagato showing up in a story about one of the others and it's almost never implied that the battleships live or even spend much time together.
Because they're all fragmented like that them having a single 'mother' figure doesn't seem as natural because they don't seem like much of a family to start with. Fuso for instance is technically the oldest battleship in (and likely to ever be in) game and has the temperament (indeed in various Nishimura fleet works she very often seems to take this role). Yet she was never morphed into a more general motherly figure for the group like Houshou was for the carriers by fanon.
Connie is older (laid down, launched, and fully commissioned earlier) than Fukou though. Granted, the former was a battlecruiser before her 1929-1935 reconstruction (read: plastic surgery), but we don't exactly take years off a person even after botox injections and nip-and-tucks.
The main reason why Houshou is associated with being a mother (other than her being the first commissioned purpose-built carrier) is because the word for aircraft carrier in Japanese (航空母艦, "aviation mothership", often shortened to 空母, "air mother") has the word mother in it. Same goes with Whale-chan, who gets to be the young mother of the subs, as 潜水母艦 ("submarine mothership", submarine tender) also has the word "mother" in it.
Mother/grandmother Mikasa isn't around yet for the battleships. Otherwise Kongo is as close to being the mother of the battleship around here and she's not really suited for it like Houshou is for the carriers.
Although, admitedly, my image for Mikasa ship girl is set on Kinona's Mikasa, she probably will be an elder sister type of character rather than mother.
Battleships have image of the lone patriot, with their sister as the only person actually get personal enough with them. Also they seems to be the one who will always lead against the enemy because it's not their place to hesitate and make their fleet worried.
Children who are born adult and thrown into a big responsibility.
Connie is older (laid down, launched, and fully commissioned earlier) than Fukou though. Granted, the former was a battlecruiser before her 1929-1935 reconstruction (read: plastic surgery), but we don't exactly take years off a person even after botox injections and nip-and-tucks.
The actual point was that just because a ships is older and famous doesn't mean it has any particular relation to later ships in terms of linage even if it shares a name. Mikasa was a 'battleship', but a very different sort of battleship then the Dreadnoughts of later years. Constitution was a 'frigate', but a totally different sort of frigate then a modern one. The separation in the later case is more extreme, but that was somewhat the point. Illustration by absurdity.
The main reason why Houshou is associated with being a mother (other than her being the first commissioned purpose-built carrier) is because the word for aircraft carrier in Japanese (航空母艦, "aviation mothership", often shortened to 空母, "air mother") has the word mother in it. Same goes with Whale-chan, who gets to be the young mother of the subs, as 潜水母艦 ("submarine mothership", submarine tender) also has the word "mother" in it.
Highly dubious IMO. If not for the history surrounding her in relation to the other Japanese CVs I think it very unlikely the name alone would have spawned the characterization she got. The whale's characterization also far more likely flows from the role and purpose of a submarine tender in relation to it's charges then the particulars of the descriptors used IMO.
Seika said: Battleships have image of the lone patriot, with their sister as the only person actually get personal enough with them. Also they seems to be the one who will always lead against the enemy because it's not their place to hesitate and make their fleet worried.
Children who are born adult and thrown into a big responsibility.
Thing is battleships were always supposed to be massed, the idea was that if a battle rated one battleship it rated ALL the battleships because everyone thought one mother of all Jutland style fleet action was going to decide the entire naval war in a day. So the irony was that all these battlefleets conducted these extensive drills and exercises for years before the war where they wheeled around in huge formations of at least half a dozen ships and then when the war actually started this never actually happened. Meanwhile carriers were seen as too vulranble if clustered together and mostly used alone or in pairs, it was only a few months before the start of the war that Japan began experimenting with a massed unit and even then only at first for the planned Pearl Harbor raid.
Yet fanon has basically totally reversed this the carriers are extremely tight knit across almost all fanon, while most of the battleships barely interact with each other outside of their class in most works. It's an odd quirk now that I come to think of it.
Pardon if i messed something up. I was trying to remove the double translation. Can someone do it?
Done.
Waahh...A ticket for a pat on the shoulderwe prepared presents for you, Houshou-san! Thank you for caring for us everyday!Wha..wha...wha...what should I do?
I also want to show my thanks to Houshou-san....Calm down Yamato! You can still make it by today!Maybe something handmade... Um...Today is Mother's Day, so...Thank you, everyone!But I totally forgot what day it was today, I didn't prepare.... uuu...
