Admibro, you heretic. I would love to have Kongou pouring tea for me.

Silly Admibro. You can sit and enjoy Kongou's tea and you don't have to drink them all too fast like that. "Kongou - Black Tea Demon"?

Speaking as someone who can down 3 or so liters of tea in a sitting... it's not his mouth admiral should be holding, he should be charging for the restroom.

Also, try adding lemon and honey to the tea if you're trying to help the throat.

10 cups is nothing.

Demundo said:

Silly Admibro. You can sit and enjoy Kongou's tea and you don't have to drink them all too fast like that. "Kongou - Black Tea Demon"?

Exactly. Gulping them down won't hydrate you or your throat anyways.

NWSiaCB said:

Speaking as someone who can down 3 or so liters of tea in a sitting... it's not his mouth admiral should be holding, he should be charging for the restroom.

Also, try adding lemon and honey to the tea if you're trying to help the throat.

That's one way to do it. Also, sipping constantly versus gulping them down to get it over with.

Claverhouse said:

10 cups is nothing.

As long as there's a washroom and an afternoon to enjoy them? Indeed.

That's pretty high up there Kongo.

NWSiaCB said:

Also, try adding lemon and honey to the tea if you're trying to help the throat.

Both lemon and honey lose most if not all of their benefits when put in hot tea (vitamin C, for example, breaks down in 70 degrees Celsius). Lemon's acidity also helps absorb aluminium from tea, which is, generally speaking, not good (which basically means you might not want to have tea with sour stuff too often).

Which is a damn shame, because I grew up to love lemon tea.

HaxtonFale said:

Both lemon and honey lose most if not all of their benefits when put in hot tea (vitamin C, for example, breaks down in 70 degrees Celsius). Lemon's acidity also helps absorb aluminium from tea, which is, generally speaking, not good (which basically means you might not want to have tea with sour stuff too often).

Which is a damn shame, because I grew up to love lemon tea.

Well, it might be heresy to a black tea demon, but not all teas are meant to be served near-boiling hot. (For that matter, not all teas are meant to be brewed that hot...) As someone with a bit of a "cat's tongue", I tend to leave my tea to cool down for a while after steeping (or even outright throw in a few cubes of ice in a pinch) to bring the temperature down.

HaxtonFale said:

Both lemon and honey lose most if not all of their benefits when put in hot tea (vitamin C, for example, breaks down in 70 degrees Celsius). Lemon's acidity also helps absorb aluminium from tea, which is, generally speaking, not good (which basically means you might not want to have tea with sour stuff too often).

Which is a damn shame, because I grew up to love lemon tea.

Vit. C doesn't degrade that fast anyway. Personal experience too, since I work with UV-Vis spectrophotometers on a frequent basis. Sometimes with AA and DHAA standards too.

And any added acidity won't leech any additional aluminum unless you add them to the brewing tea leaves (or aluminum vessel/cup). Even if you do, kinetics means any additional Al3+ leeched will be negligible unless you leave it to steep with the tea leaves for 30 mins or so. Which will absolutely ruin the flavor of the tea unless you're making zavarka or something.

I mean, you're straining and pouring the tea into a separate cup before adding the lemon juice and honey, right?

Not to mention that, well, you probably get more Al3+ from aluminum cookware, or even your water depending on how your local treatment plants treat the water (especially if they use alum). Antiperspirants and certain leavening agents also expose you to far more aluminum.

Finally, well, the association between Al3+ and Alzheimer is contentious at best, even with 40 years of research (lots of conflicting studies). Sure, amyloid plaques tend to have higher concentrations of aluminum, and Al3+ at extremely high concentrations can act as a neurotoxin, but correlation does not imply causation (especially since the mechanism of action are somewhat different). Tea-drinking cultures (tea leaves and tea usually have higher Al content) also don't report increased rates of Alzheimer compared to other populations.

There's more danger from simply drinking hot beverages on a frequent basis, really, compared to worrying about aluminum.

NWSiaCB said:

Well, it might be heresy to a black tea demon, but not all teas are meant to be served near-boiling hot. (For that matter, not all teas are meant to be brewed that hot...) As someone with a bit of a "cat's tongue", I tend to leave my tea to cool down for a while after steeping (or even outright throw in a few cubes of ice in a pinch) to bring the temperature down.

I don't drink tea at 90+ degrees myself either, but I was brought up with no finesse to teamaking - I use teabags and freshly boiled water (not even a teapot).

NNescio said:

Vit. C doesn't degrade that fast anyway. Personal experience too, since I work with UV-Vis spectrophotometers on a frequent basis. Sometimes with AA and DHAA standards too.

And any added acidity won't leech any additional aluminum unless you add them to the brewing tea leaves (or aluminum vessel/cup). Even if you do, kinetics means any additional Al3+ leeched will be negligible unless you leave it to steep with the tea leaves for 30 mins or so. Which will absolutely ruin the flavor of the tea unless you're making zavarka or something.

I mean, you're straining and pouring the tea into a separate cup before adding the lemon juice and honey, right?

Not to mention that, well, you probably get more Al3+ from aluminum cookware, or even your water depending on how your local treatment plants treat the water (especially if they use alum). Antiperspirants and certain leavening agents also expose you to far more aluminum.

Finally, well, the association between Al3+ and Alzheimer is contentious at best, even with 40 years of research (lots of conflicting studies). Sure, amyloid plaques tend to have higher concentrations of aluminum, and Al3+ at extremely high concentrations can act as a neurotoxin, but correlation does not imply causation (especially since the mechanism of action are somewhat different). Tea-drinking cultures (tea leaves and tea usually have higher Al content) also don't report increased rates of Alzheimer compared to other populations.

There's more danger from simply drinking hot beverages on a frequent basis, really, compared to worrying about aluminum.

Hm, fair enough. I guess that means I can resume having lemon tea as usual.

And that is why only heathens use teabags with aluminum kettles. ;)

For real tea, got gently boil the water in a copper or steel kettle, then pour into a glass or porcelain teapot. Depending on the type of tea, got either wait to add the leaves after the water is down to the desired temp, or add earlier on and then pour into glass or porcelain teaware without leaving our to steep forever.

Them you add the sugar/honey.

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