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  • ID: 2675796
  • Uploader: SkyStream »
  • Date: about 8 years ago
  • Approver: Miene »
  • Size: 3.52 MB .jpg (2825x5000) »
  • Source: seiga.nicovideo.jp/seiga/im6595843 »
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suzuya (kantai collection) drawn by key_kun

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  • 艦これラクガキ 「新人航空母艦!?」

    鈴谷「軽空母鈴谷だよ~☆にひっ!」

    KanColle Sketch: "A New Aircraft Carrier!?"

    Suzuya: "It's Light Carrier Suzuya, y'know~☆? Nihi!"

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    Mamizou
    about 8 years ago
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    Noo, please don't get remodeled into just another light carrier.
    I want to keep using Suzuya/Kumano duo just like I have for the last 3 years

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    SkyStream
    about 8 years ago
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    Mamizou said:

    Noo, please don't get remodeled into just another light carrier.
    I want to keep using Suzuya/Kumano duo just like I have for the last 3 years

    Presumably Kumano (who will also get a Kai Ni) would join Suzuya as CVL if she actually becomes one. They sure have had some good times together though.

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    dsryr30
    about 8 years ago
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    I truly hope they will not become CVL's in the way we know them now, we already have too few CAV's as is.

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    Raigeki
    about 8 years ago
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    dsryr30 said:

    I truly hope they will not become CVL's in the way we know them now, we already have too few CAV's as is.

    What do you mean? The only real problem with CVLs right now is that only ChiChis are good for events due to being fast. RJ's slots leave things to be desired, and would be better if her large slot was the first one since the first slots get bonus damage. Jun'you should be the best CVL due to her slot sizes and placements, but being slow brings her down for any event that bullies slow ships. Hiyou is fine as is but again, slow bullying brings her down and sacrificing a slot to make either of them fast isn't ideal. Zuihou and Shouhou are weak despite being fast due to those small slots. Ryuuhou and Houshou are just plain garbage.

    Suzuya Kai 2 needs to be stronger than Zuihou and Shouhou, but I'm sure a blueprint and really high level requirement could fix that problem. So long as they don't fuck up the slot distributions.

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    rom collector
    about 8 years ago
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    Plane distribution mean nothing when you have to send more than one CVL. In any case it's your own fault to always rely on higher slot distributions than AA equipment and other countermeasures to reduce plane take down.

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    Raigeki
    about 8 years ago
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    rom_collector said:

    Plane distribution mean nothing when you have to send more than one CVL. In any case it's your own fault to always rely on higher slot distributions than AA equipment and other countermeasures to reduce plane take down.

    AA equipment or AS isn't going to save you from Tsu. What matters most for carriers ever since the aircraft proficiency update back during 2nd SN is that the big slot is the first and the distribution of the planes among the slots, rather than overall high plane capacity.

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    rom collector
    about 8 years ago
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    And when that happens there are many other fleet combinations and branching rules to avoid such disadvantage. If I wanted all carriers to be Kaga, then I would rise a lot of Kaga copies (cue "you can't send Kaga copies to the same map" excuse).

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    Raigeki
    about 8 years ago
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    rom_collector said:

    And when that happens there are many other fleet combinations and branching rules to avoid such disadvantage. If I wanted all carriers to be Kaga, then I would rise a lot of Kaga copies (cue "you can't send Kaga copies to the same map" excuse).

    But Kaga is barely mid-tier now. Big doesn't mean giant. 24 is fine for CVLs' biggest slot and the ideal, really.

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    rom collector
    about 8 years ago
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    Raigeki said:

    But Kaga is barely mid-tier now. Big doesn't mean giant. 24 is fine for CVLs' biggest slot and the ideal, really.

    See? Not everything has to be higher slots. It could be more firepower, more AA, night battle capable, etc. The problem is some users insist on using the same tired old tactics when the game itself is constantly changing and different tactics require different strokes. Many are already spoon feed with KanColle viewers and all the data from the wiki. I bit of thinking from our part doesn't hurt.

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    Raigeki
    about 8 years ago
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    rom_collector said:

    See? Not everything has to be higher slots. It could be more firepower, more AA, night battle capable, etc. The problem is some users insist on using the same tired old tactics when the game itself is constantly changing and different tactics require different strokes. Many are already spoon feed with KanColle viewers and all the data from the wiki. I bit of thinking from our part doesn't hurt.

    Old tired tactics? Putting torp bombers on the biggest slot(s) and fighters on the rest is old tired tactics? That's been the standard since 2nd SN, and why CVs with big 1st slot like Cranes, Taihou, and Sara stand at the top for CVs while ChiChis (and Jun'you when routing allows) stand at the top for CVLs. That bonus 1st slot damage isn't insignificant, and if it isn't big enough (24 for safe with good dice roll) then multiple Tsus on the way will eat it up. Stats aren't the whole picture, the distribution also plays a big role.

    Old tired tactics would be going full Reppuu mule or putting fighters on the largest slots, and why no one uses a single CV in Suijou anymore since 2 CVL usually allows for bombing. My whole point in the beginning was that ChiChis are the only reasonable choice when using Suijou because more often than not, there is some bullshit slow ship bullying that doesn't allow Jun'you for easier routing, and why Suzuya would provide an alternative so that ChiChis don't always have to be saved just in case Suijou gets good routing at the final map.

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    rom collector
    about 8 years ago
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    And that brings back my previous point: if you want a "safe" route, raise copies of your "best" ships, it's simple. The only reason you complain for something optional to remodel/raise, is only because you don't want to work on the game anymore (and that's something developers won't allow). If you really want to load a dice to your favor we are getting better equipment during or after events.

    I know I'm the last proper person to talk having failed 4 last map events in a row for different reasons (lack of time, demotivation, emergency priorities, etc.). But I do know it's perfectly possible to complete events and clear maps on hard difficulties with Chitose/Chiyoda as AV, no Yamato (until 6 months ago) or Musashi and no American/English ships to name a few. And I do know because I did. Last map has not lock, so you can technically bring everything most of the cases. If I weren't busy with many other priorities, I could have earned all those 4 hard medals with what you consider being limitations.

    Updated by rom collector about 8 years ago

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    about 8 years ago
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    recon98
    about 8 years ago
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    Suzuya CVL as kai2?
    Please no....

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