I think scenery only posts are never anime-related, so this point is awfully flawed.
What's up with artistic merit, though?

"Not anime related"
Why don't we also flag the other 300k posts tagged under original or everything under scenery no_humans, since the vast majority of those is also not anime related?

BTW whoever flagged this post might want to familiarize themselves with wiki #10933 and with the Terms of Service.

nonamethanks said:

"Not anime related"
Why don't we also flag the other 300k posts tagged under original or everything under scenery no_humans, since the vast majority of those is also not anime related?

BTW whoever flagged this post might want to familiarize themselves with wiki #10933 and with the Terms of Service.

Anime related doesn't mean related to a specific series/copyright. If you were familiar with those documents maybe you'd realize that. Being on Pixiv doesn't somehow make this relevant. And a slippery slope argument would actually help the case for deleting this image. If this is acceptable, why not the millions of low quality scribblings of lowres outdoor scenes like this? There are certainly background and scenery pictures here but the difference is they are actually good.

chinatsu said:

Anime related doesn't mean related to a specific series/copyright. If you were familiar with those documents maybe you'd realize that. Being on Pixiv doesn't somehow make this relevant. And a slippery slope argument would actually help the case for deleting this image. If this is acceptable, why not the millions of low quality scribblings of lowres outdoor scenes like this? There are certainly background and scenery pictures here but the difference is they are actually good.

Then the flag should describe why this post is quality-wise not suited for Danbooru.
Simply writing that this is not anime-related and of few artistic merit doesn't really help and leads to think that the flagger did misunderstand something, or rather, doesn't let approvers understand why this post should go.

chinatsu said:
low quality scribblings of lowres outdoor scenes like this? There are certainly background and scenery pictures here but the difference is they are actually good.

please, please tell me you're joking when you call this low quality.

cd_young said:

please, please tell me you're joking when you call this low quality.

I'm not

Chiera said:

Then the flag should describe why this post is quality-wise not suited for Danbooru.
Simply writing that this is not anime-related and of few artistic merit doesn't really help and leads to think that the flagger did misunderstand something, or rather, doesn't let approvers understand why this post should go.

I find this criticism overly concerned with process. A flag is a flag, and an approver knows when they see one not to just weigh the merits of a flag reason. They should know that a post needs to meet criteria regardless of what it may be flagged for and they are ultimately judging posts, not flag reasons. This image is a pathetic parody of what quality means on this site. "Good enough" should never be the metric for quality on here. The only thing that could be said in defense of this pedestrian, uninspired, basic illustration is that it's "enough" for this site. Not that it stands out, not that it shows great talent, or even that it would be missed or remembered. It has utility purely as being a piece in an archive, but so would furry porn or stock photographs of woodland ducks.

chinatsu said:

I find this criticism overly concerned with process. A flag is a flag, and an approver knows when they see one not to just weigh the merits of a flag reason. They should know that a post needs to meet criteria regardless of what it may be flagged for and they are ultimately judging posts, not flag reasons. This image is a pathetic parody of what quality means on this site. "Good enough" should never be the metric for quality on here. The only thing that could be said in defense of this pedestrian, uninspired, basic illustration is that it's "enough" for this site. Not that it stands out, not that it shows great talent, or even that it would be missed or remembered. It has utility purely as being a piece in an archive, but so would furry porn or stock photographs of woodland ducks.

You may be right, but such flags also carry uneccessary potential for conflicts because it leaves things unclear or mentions stuff that is normally accepted. So such flags will piss people off.
And yes, I had to learn that, too. But flags need to be considerate and the "normal" user needs to know what's going on.
The same accounts for Approvers: It's an ideal that you are describing, but the approval process doesn't work that way since flags also "manipulate" Approvers and if they can't work with a flag reason, then they most likely see no reason to let the flag come through.

Chiera said:

You may be right, but such flags also carry uneccessary potential for conflicts because it leaves things unclear or mentions stuff that is normally accepted. So such flags will piss people off.
And yes, I had to learn that, too. But flags need to be considerate and the "normal" user needs to know what's going on.
The same accounts for Approvers: It's an ideal that you are describing, but the approval process doesn't work that way since flags also "manipulate" Approvers and if they can't work with a flag reason, then they most likely see no reason to let the flag come through.

Pissing people off isn't a big concern. There are people who will always histrionically react to their precious upload getting hit with a flag or like cd young who comment qua comment because anything being potentially deleted sets them off. All that you are describing isn't important to me. It was flagged for reasons you find objectionable but still are leaving room for it to be flagged but with a reason more appropriate to you. If someone else were to flag following the criteria you have laid out I would approve of that.