referring to the failure of French and Germany to invade russia in their respective conquest era?

hehehe

The blue destroyer with the communist red heart has noticed you.

So this is before Tashkent join the base?

Looks like when Tashkent wasn't relegated to the APAC squadron.

Also wasn't the first "oh god no..." the Germans encountered was the land pretty much giving them the middle finger by the way of Rasputitsa BEFORE General Winter decided to pay a visit?

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On the other hand the ever glorious Kaiser Army conquered more of Russia than Napoleon or the Nazis ever did...

Yeah...... I seriously want to pull so many reports and books out to say it's not the winter which helped Soviet Union defended themselves against the Germans and the French, even. It's more like they killed themselves without thinking how they will need a whole lot of supplies waging a war.

For the Frenches, it was because they thought they could use what they can take from the land itself. Lost for the people not leaving anything for them.

For the Germans, they stretched their own supply line and underfed their soldiers and fought thinking they would win as fast as they fought the French. How big a mistake that was.

But naturally, I doubt how German faction of historians and Soviet haters would care about that. As always.

And yeah, feel free to vote me down just because you don't like the truth. But that doesn't mean you can bend what is true. The German sucked in WW2.

Demundo said:

Yeah...... I seriously want to pull so many reports and books out to say it's not the winter which helped Soviet Union defended themselves against the Germans and the French, even. It's more like they killed themselves without thinking how they will need a whole lot of supplies waging a war.

For the Frenches, it was because they thought they could use what they can take from the land itself. Lost for the people not leaving anything for them.

For the Germans, they stretched their own supply line and underfed their soldiers and fought thinking they would win as fast as they fought the French. How big a mistake that was.

But naturally, I doubt how German faction of historians and Soviet haters would care about that. As always.

And yeah, feel free to vote me down just because you don't like the truth. But that doesn't mean you can bend what is true. The German sucked in WW2.

Yeah, if anything winter froze the mud which allowed the Germans to continue to Moscow* where they lost not to winter but the Red Army in battle.

*According to wartime German accounts both from field officers, soldiers and strategists

Nepped_cadia said:

Yeah, if anything winter froze the mud which allowed the Germans to continue to Moscow* where they lost not to winter but the Red Army in battle.

*According to wartime German accounts both from field officers, soldiers and strategists

The one thing about winter in Russia that sucks so much is that at the start of winter, it snows for a while then the temperature would go up enough that this snow melts, making the roads muddy even in modern Russia right now.
So the winter did work against the German for a bit, but improved their situation quickly. Though this gave the Soviet time to regroup themselves.
Non of that meant much as the Soviet started their full on counter offensive at the start of the coldest days in that winter.