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  • ID: 3515241
  • Uploader: Killerkaim »
  • Date: about 6 years ago
  • Approver: Squishy »
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  • STAR WARS DARK EMPIRE

    コミック『ダークエンパイアⅠ』から、ラストバトルをひとつまみ。

    決着まで描けなかった...

    アニメーターさんは偉大ですね。

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    warellis
    about 6 years ago
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    It's beautiful to see someone remember the Star Wars Expanded Universe (what is now called "Legends.")

    This is really neat.

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    warellis
    about 6 years ago
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    Killerkaim said:

    Actually it's from 2015, same month as the force awakens release date so it was very early in the new universe

    Ahh. Still it's great to see this.

    To be kind of honest, I find Legends Star Wars to be more varied and interesting in scenarios and ideas, even if it did eventually become the Skywalker-Solo family shenanigans all the time.

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    about 6 years ago
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    warellis said:

    Ahh. Still it's great to see this.

    To be kind of honest, I find Legends Star Wars to be more varied and interesting in scenarios and ideas, even if it did eventually become the Skywalker-Solo family shenanigans all the time.

    I agree there were a lot of the best star wars stories in the EU. Never forget kade skywalker the hero who got high on death sticks. But personally I didn't really like dark empire which is one of the reasons I didnt really enjoy tlj

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    Steak
    about 6 years ago
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    Dark Empire has nothing to do with the Disney shit. Dark Empire came out in the late 80s, early 90s.

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    Steak
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    Killerkaim said:

    He took a large amount of concepts for tlj from dark empire my dood. The director admitted it when people called him out on it.

    Where at exactly?

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    MalusTTK
    about 6 years ago
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    Oh wow, Dark Empire!!! <3
    I'm loving the way how this duel looks here too.

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    about 6 years ago
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    Steak said:

    Where at exactly?

    The whole force projection thing luke did, the “being able to communicate from long distances through the force" and luke doing it with leia specifically, and if they bring palpatine back thats from this too obviously.

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    HeroicRebellion
    almost 6 years ago
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    Steak said:

    Where at exactly?

    Actually, it was confirmed that among the many influences that made Kylo Ren, one of the visions was "Luke Skywalker but evil"
    Guess what was the plot of Dark Empire...

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    almost 6 years ago
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    HeroicRebellion said:

    Actually, it was confirmed that among the many influences that made Kylo Ren, one of the visions was "Luke Skywalker but evil"
    Guess what was the plot of Dark Empire...

    So wait...
    Disney disavows the Star Wars EU, and yet takes inspiration and aspects from said EU. Where's the logic in that?

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    almost 6 years ago
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    HeroicRebellion said:

    Actually, it was confirmed that among the many influences that made Kylo Ren, one of the visions was "Luke Skywalker but evil"
    Guess what was the plot of Dark Empire...

    Luke beating Palpatine without his dad there to save him? Seems to have been the genesis for Dark Empire. I mean, the good guys betting the farm on a sudden pain of conscience from a Dark Lord of the Sith is not a credible plan. Lots of people were disappointed with the end of RotJ because the good guys winning just doesn't make alot of sense when you think about it.

    For comparison, Palpatine's machinations in the Prequels does not lean heavily on Anakin falling to the dark side and joining him. It's really more of a happy bonus, a side venture he was working on while the real plans were carried forward. Supposing Anakin didn't fall, Palpatine had other ways of getting what he wanted. He could escape the duel with Windu and leave Corsucant after initiating Order 66, decapitating the Republic's military and gutting the Jedi Order before fleeing to the CIS.

    And although Luke didn't really bet everything on Vader turning, that's what it really came down to at the end.

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    NWSiaCB
    almost 6 years ago
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    Bdev50 said:

    So wait...
    Disney disavows the Star Wars EU, and yet takes inspiration and aspects from said EU. Where's the logic in that?

    To be fair, if they'd just said "EU is canon", the problem is that everything would have been canon, and not everything in the EU was of consistent quality, or even made sense being in the same universe (for example, Chewbacca should be dead from that moon that fell on him, say hello to the werewolves or the Force-immune conquering hoards of warriors that use snakes for weapons from outside the Galaxy for me, or perform some Teras Kasi moves like "Crouching Bantha, Roaring Whampa"), as one would expect of a disorganized mess of different authors doing their own thing.

    It's probably better to consider it a reboot of the EU than utterly tossing it in the trash. If I had better faith in Disney to actually manage such things, I'd say it would be a good chance to streamline the previous EU into something that more than a tiny handful of die-hard fans could actually have a chance of reading/watching. (And after all, Star Wars was at one point itself a Marvel comic franchise, so rebooting a ludicrously labyrinthine lore for the mainstream audience should just come with the territory...)

    The only way people could ever enjoy the EU was to pick and choose the "good parts", and that's basically what they're doing here. (And hey, maybe the Thrawn Trilogy in some form will eventually be one of the spin-off movies.)

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    Steak
    almost 6 years ago
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    Actually they trashed the EU because they didn't want to pay royalties to the authors. Not because it was hard to follow. It was big, but not hard to follow.

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    NWSiaCB
    almost 6 years ago
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    Steak said:

    Actually they trashed the EU because they didn't want to pay royalties to the authors. Not because it was hard to follow. It was big, but not hard to follow.

    Being hard to follow isn't the biggest problem by a longshot, it's that much of the EU has overlapping or outright contradictory plot points. How many times has Luke fallen in love with someone or something or gone to the dark side? How many major characters have died how many times? How many stories in the EU were just plain badly written and featured massive character derailment?

    The EU was always basically professionaly-produced fanfiction, and just like how a Touhou fanfic doesn't necessarily require you to know anything more than the "base" canon setting and be prepared to allow the rules to be bent a little for whatever this particular author is going to throw at you, there might be a Star Wars zombies that never gets mentioned again in any other book.

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    Steak
    almost 6 years ago
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    NWSiaCB said:

    Being hard to follow isn't the biggest problem by a longshot, it's that much of the EU has overlapping or outright contradictory plot points. How many times has Luke fallen in love with someone or something or gone to the dark side? How many major characters have died how many times? How many stories in the EU were just plain badly written and featured massive character derailment?

    Luke had a number of love interests, that's not really unusual is it? Off the top of my head, may be half a dozen over a 10+ year time period? People in the setting and without gave the character a hard time because of that. Jokes about how in the entire galaxy there must be millions of women who'd line up to have his kids based on name recognition alone, much to his chagrin naturally because he's still a farm boy at heart.

    Luke did the Dark Empire thing and that was it. Otherwise he'd be tempted by the Dark Side now again, but that's a pretty normal on-going struggle for Jedi. Many of his *students* fell to the Dark side and he'd have to deal with them one way or another.

    You mean Boba Fett? There was some confusion as to just how he got out of the Sarlacc Pit, before an official story was eventually decided upon. Then there's Palpatine who did the clone thing which was unpopular to say the least. People who died in the EU tended to stay dead. New characters who'd died and been resurrected somehow tended to have something wrong with them. Like there was a droid built on Grevious's chassis who wondered if he was Grevious or not.

    Considering Star Wars is as setting with literal ghosts in it, it's surprising life and death sheningans aren't more common.

    The EU was always basically professionaly-produced fanfiction, and just like how a Touhou fanfic doesn't necessarily require you to know anything more than the "base" canon setting and be prepared to allow the rules to be bent a little for whatever this particular author is going to throw at you, there might be a Star Wars zombies that never gets mentioned again in any other book.

    The Star Wars galaxy is much bigger than Gensyoko. Conceivably it's easy for something or someone to get lost in it. Not to say that there weren't bad ideas that were quietly buried away when they reared their heads, but with a setting that was so large and so much canon involved, it was hard to 'break' things beyond repair. Even when they spent 5 years and several dozen novels depicting an intergalactic war that destroyed much of what the EU'd established over a 10 year period, it ultimately didn't matter that much.

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    cokerpilot
    almost 6 years ago
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    NWSiaCB said:

    Being hard to follow isn't the biggest problem by a longshot, it's that much of the EU has overlapping or outright contradictory plot points. How many times has Luke fallen in love with someone or something or gone to the dark side? How many major characters have died how many times? How many stories in the EU were just plain badly written and featured massive character derailment?

    The EU was always basically professionaly-produced fanfiction, and just like how a Touhou fanfic doesn't necessarily require you to know anything more than the "base" canon setting and be prepared to allow the rules to be bent a little for whatever this particular author is going to throw at you, there might be a Star Wars zombies that never gets mentioned again in any other book.

    Actually, the EU was pretty consistent on its main plot points. But only because LA literally had an entire department dedicated to making sure the core EU stuff stayed consistent.

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    HeroicRebellion
    almost 6 years ago
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    Bdev50 said:

    So wait...
    Disney disavows the Star Wars EU, and yet takes inspiration and aspects from said EU. Where's the logic in that?

    They said themselves when they did it. Though they would discontinue the Legends, in the name of artistic liberties, they promised that any element they desire is ALWAYS at beck an call (For example, Admiral Thrawn) though a new story will be written

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    cokerpilot said:

    Actually, the EU was pretty consistent on its main plot points. But only because LA literally had an entire department dedicated to making sure the core EU stuff stayed consistent.

    They actually had a tier ranking for all the works

    G canon- the films and any directly related material
    T canon- Tv shows
    C canon- those considered by authors.
    S canon- those IGNORED by authors
    N canon- non canon works (the Holiday special)

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