Racism: the belief that different races possess distinct characteristics, abilities, or qualities, especially so as to distinguish them as inferior or superior to one another.
This movement is literally the definition since it's only concerned about Black Lives as opposed to all the non-black lives lost FOR this movement.
Last year, 10 million arrests were made in the United States. That's 10 million times people weren't killed while being taken into police custody. That's not counting the times people had a run-in with them, such as a traffic violation.
There's something wrong with a country when the demand of basic human decency from their police is considered 'taboo politics'. As a journalist, I've been monitoring these protests and, goddamn, the abuse that the police is doing EVEN when they're being recorded is insane.
There's something wrong with a country when the demand of basic human decency from their police is considered 'taboo politics'. As a journalist, I've been monitoring these protests and, goddamn, the abuse that the police is doing EVEN when they're being recorded is insane.
How dare they retaliate with deterrents while being rightly pelted with ice bottles, bricks, sealed cans and anything else non-protesters are throwing at them.
There's something wrong with a country when the demand of basic human decency from their police is considered 'taboo politics'. As a journalist, I've been monitoring these protests and, goddamn, the abuse that the police is doing EVEN when they're being recorded is insane.
I'm more concerned about the fact that United States is one of the countries in the world that hasn't "flatten the curve" and with all the nationwide riot that's happening right now, it's just going to get worse.
I'm more concerned about the fact that United States is one of the countries in the world that hasn't "flatten the curve" and with all the nationwide riot that's happening right now, it's just going to get worse.
Cities and states were already lifting stay-at-home orders and sending people back to work, opening nonessential business and public venues, etc. before the protests began. Anyone acting concerned about COVID being spread by masked protestors but not by bar and restaurant patrons needs to engage in some serious self-reflection.
Cities and states were already lifting stay-at-home orders and sending people back to work, opening nonessential business and public venues, etc. before the protests began. Anyone acting concerned about COVID being spread by masked protestors but not by bar and restaurant patrons needs to engage in some serious self-reflection.
Things like these are also happening in my country, don't just go boldy making assumptions that I haven't got the slightest idea of what's going on. Any crowd is just as bad, if you say that bar and restaurant patrons are causing infections to spread then how does this different with a crowd of protesters? Unless they know how to distance themselves from each other of course.
When stay at home orders are being lifted and people started crowding again, doesn't mean it's "perfectly" fine to create more unnecessary crowds.
I've nothing against the protesters in the end. It's just that the situation is so dire right now that the worst could just happen quickly without everyone noticing.
Minorities' human rights, universal healthcare and gun control. Topics that explodes in an extreme two-fronts conflict. You can see right now, where a fair and understandable demand, like a stop to police abuse is generating a lot of confrontation.
8knots said:
I'm more concerned about the fact that United States is one of the countries in the world that hasn't "flatten the curve" and with all the nationwide riot that's happening right now, it's just going to get worse.
The second wave is going to blamed on these protesters, even though a couple of weeks ago, the US had protest for opening business when the spreading of the virus was at its maximum.
Minorities' human rights, universal healthcare and gun control. Topics that explodes in an extreme two-fronts conflict. You can see right now, where a fair and understandable demand, like a stop to police abuse is generating a lot of confrontation.
I don't think there are solutions that wouldn't be worse than the problems.
Things like these are also happening in my country, don't just go boldy making assumptions that I haven't got the slightest idea of what's going on.
Then surely you must also be aware of all the Americans who, a month ago, were staging their own protests against the shutdown but are now shedding crocodile tears because other people are contributing to the pandemic. The level of hypocrisy here right now is staggering. I'm not encouraging anyone to spread infectious disease, just pointing out that the folks who waited until now to start expressing concerns about COVID are not being entirely sincere.
iridescent_slime said: Then surely you must also be aware of all the Americans who, a month ago, were staging their own protests against the shutdown but are now shedding crocodile tears because other people are contributing to the pandemic. The level of hypocrisy here right now is staggering. I'm not encouraging anyone to spread infectious disease, just pointing out that the folks who waited until now to start expressing concerns about COVID are not being entirely sincere.
I believe that's just the bitter talking. It is possible to believe that the threat level of COVID can be managed without having to resort to economic cataclysm using and enforcing proper precautionary habits, and still complain that the current rioters and looters (and sometimes, yes, the protesters) are flagrantly violating more than just the precautions in mind.
Keep in mind that those two groups are not necessarily the same people. Concluding that they’re contradictory or disingenuous simply because you belong to neither group is fallacious. Being anti-lockdown was somewhat radical libertarian right. Being anti-riot or anti-BLM is centrist and authoritarian right respectively.
Cities and states were already lifting stay-at-home orders and sending people back to work, opening nonessential business and public venues, etc. before the protests began. Anyone acting concerned about COVID being spread by masked protestors but not by bar and restaurant patrons needs to engage in some serious self-reflection.
In a twist of almost staged comedic irony, most of the businesses burned and destroyed were places that were going to open to limited traffic after the lockdown protests allowed them to open.
oh dear now it become politics warzone, both side are bad you know the protester are causing anarchism, and the police are not following procedure when apprehend suspect. Folks at twitter and "Influencer" making it worse due to their cancel culture and justifying loot and vandalism. Being Centrist will be called white supremacist by left wing and SJW by rightwing. Sorry for my bad grammar english is not my main language.
Not saying that brutality with these weapons wouldn't occur, nor would they always work, but doesn't seem like it'd cost much or hurt to take a crack at.
Not saying that brutality with these weapons wouldn't occur, nor would they always work, but doesn't seem like it'd cost much or hurt to take a crack at.
That would require police to have a level of empathy & fitness though.
Not saying that brutality with these weapons wouldn't occur, nor would they always work, but doesn't seem like it'd cost much or hurt to take a crack at.
I hear "mancatcher" and I think "Skaven". I don't think the Skaven are the model for competence or even-handedness.
Kikimaru said:
That would require police to have a level of empathy & fitness though.
I always see comments like that and in my experience, cops are people and back when I was dealing with some pretty heavy stuff, I had more positive experiences than negative. Its not like graduating police academy requires a degree in being an asshole.
Every North American regardless of race should be anti-police. In this part of the world they are not trained to protect, they are trained to kill.
As a Black man from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania in the USA. I was a BLM type (College Student at the time.) until my late mom said all All Lives Matter and explained how and why. Now when I say it, everyone is triggered.
The most concerning thing about police is not who they're after, but who they aren't. By polarizing things as a matter of police bad/good, things are made easier for bad cops to cooperate with bad politicians and businesses. A random person dying in police custody is the least of the problems.
As a Black man from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania in the USA. I was a BLM type (College Student at the time.) until my late mom said all All Lives Matter and explained how and why. Now when I say it, everyone is triggered.
I can't believe I'm wasting one of my hourly comments on this, but.. I'll explain it to you though you'll likely not listen despite it coming from another black person why the term "All Lives Matter," is insulting to BLM and those who support it.
Quite frankly it's like this, "No **** All Lives Matter." but the term BLM is about the fact that due to police overtly brutalizing Black people, they are treated as if their lives DON'T MATTER, as the system that being the government and powers that be largely ignore the pleas of Black Lives and their struggles within the system that is supposed to be fair regardless of one's skin color. Underfunded educational programs, and underdeveloped educational institutions within the black community leads to less than fairly competitive work opportunities for minorities especially blacks, you mentioned you yourself as having gone to college whether you completed it our not, yet I'm willing to bet your elementary and high school IF predominantly black didn't have the same access to materials, classes and programs as say a more affluential high school that may have been mostly white. The call of BLM matter shines a light on the systematic racism forced on the black community, and what that does to the community as a whole. You could contribute the reason why more of us turn to criminal activity to a lot of things but it all comes back in truth to a few key points, poverty, lack of opportunities, under-educated, very little hope. Even if a black person somehow makes it up to some point of success his/her community is likely to tear that person down simply because they did succeed and they largely didn't, it's why when most black people do reach some level of success they immediately have to hide it and move out of their predominantly black community, therefore removing any signs of hope and prosperity from their own community, it's a vicious cycle. So when you say, "All Lives Matter!" what you're really doing at least when it's done in response to BLM here in America, you're trying to drown out the Black Community for asking for the simple rights and privileges everyone else gets for free despite also being born American. You're probably asking what are those privileges? The right to seek, peace freedom, and prosperity like everyone else.
I can't believe I'm wasting one of my hourly comments on this, but.. I'll explain it to you though you'll likely not listen despite it coming from another black person why the term "All Lives Matter," is insulting to BLM and those who support it.
Quite frankly it's like this, "No **** All Lives Matter." but the term BLM is about the fact that due to police overtly brutalizing Black people, they are treated as if their lives DON'T MATTER, as the system that being the government and powers that be largely ignore the pleas of Black Lives and their struggles within the system that is supposed to be fair regardless of one's skin color. Underfunded educational programs, and underdeveloped educational institutions within the black community leads to less than fairly competitive work opportunities for minorities especially blacks, you mentioned you yourself as having gone to college whether you completed it our not, yet I'm willing to bet your elementary and high school IF predominantly black didn't have the same access to materials, classes and programs as say a more affluential high school that may have been mostly white. The call of BLM matter shines a light on the systematic racism forced on the black community, and what that does to the community as a whole. You could contribute the reason why more of us turn to criminal activity to a lot of things but it all comes back in truth to a few key points, poverty, lack of opportunities, under-educated, very little hope. Even if a black person somehow makes it up to some point of success his/her community is likely to tear that person down simply because they did succeed and they largely didn't, it's why when most black people do reach some level of success they immediately have to hide it and move out of their predominantly black community, therefore removing any signs of hope and prosperity from their own community, it's a vicious cycle. So when you say, "All Lives Matter!" what you're really doing at least when it's done in response to BLM here in America, you're trying to drown out the Black Community for asking for the simple rights and privileges everyone else gets for free despite also being born American. You're probably asking what are those privileges? The right to seek, peace freedom, and prosperity like everyone else.
You're turning this into a race thing ignoring that there are plenty of whites, asians, and Native Americans who run into the same issues. Classism doesn't know race and applies against all Americans.
I agree All Lives Matter is a watered down term, which is why I prefer Our Lives Matter. It keeps the confrontational and provocative tone while applying to all groups under that banner. I was around the Meth Trail, which is largely all white. All the same issues crop up there.
Exactly. Stop acting as if "blacks" (ironic coming from a group who feels offended when called that way) are the only ones abused. You are asking for more privileges over any other race and only because of your skin color. Sounds familiar? Isn't that exactly what you are against?
All lives matter. Yes, even the "white" ones. So stop playing the martyr role when every other groups are having the same issues. As shocking as it may sound in your limited vision of the world, they don't share the same skin color. Do you want a change done? Do you want to erease the frontier that makes a distinction between people? Stop putting that barrier on yourselves first.
It's obvious they are not the good guys when they demand a special treathement over any other race only because of their skin color. I would not support a racist movement to take down another. That is only switching places instead of fixing the problem.
What is the problem here? One of the supporters here said it, they don't tolerate successful people even if they share the appearance. They prefer to try and drag them down (or out).
This is like what? The forth of fifth black lives matter movement in 40 years or less and nothing has changed. It gets on the news for a month or two and then forgotten forever. Maybe it's time to question what you as a supporter are doing wrong. Expect everyone else fix it for you? Discriminate people because they are not "black" (weren't you banning that word from the media over the Obama administration BTW)? Mark a really big difference between yourself and everyone else so you can't be addressed in equality? Think about it, the worst enemy is not anyone else but yourself.
Oppressed minority (and lower class in general including the fucking homeless) Americans are safer and more privileged than 80% of the people in my country lol. All the crying falls on deaf ears here.
30+ dead and counting including but not limited to a small boy riding his bike shot at point blank, and a summary execution of a guy walking down the street minding his own business just for wearing a hat. Also this. Wonderful, keep it up guys. Really helping your case.
I mean, everything and everywhere is politics, but bringing such debating topics in here seem a bit... out of place. Fortunately there's a tag already implemented for it, so just add it to your blacklist and move on.
