Damn, this one was really downvoted even though is really well draw?

MaximunChromastone said:

Damn, this one was really downvoted even though is really well draw? I know why, this is what happens when you put content like this in a weeb site.

'Content like this in weeb site'.

So where should you put content like this? Twitter, where woke people will upvote it for boosting their virtue-signaling attempts on pride month?
Samus was never (even) hinted to be a bi on her original lore. And there's this artist putting her on front of pride flag. It's not issue of 'being well drawn', but of 'woke propaganda'.

If they didn't coopt, they'd have nothing.

Rathurue said:

'Content like this in weeb site'.

So where should you put content like this? Twitter, where woke people will upvote it for boosting their virtue-signaling attempts on pride month?
Samus was never (even) hinted to be a bi on her original lore. And there's this artist putting her on front of pride flag. It's not issue of 'being well drawn', but of 'woke propaganda'.

First of all this is just fanart so who the hell cares, second headcanons exist in every goddamn fandom, it's not canon and it's not like the person who drew it is promoting it as canon either, it doesn't affect the product in any way, You know it's not canon, the person who drew it knows too, so what's the big deal about it?
third of all, come on, saying "woke" and "sjw" just make you sound like those edgy teens who just discovered that people who are different from them exist outside of their social bubble. not everything is politics, not everything is propaganda, sometimes people just want to feel represented with the characters they like, there's nothing wrong with that as long as they don't see it as canon, which is not the case on most of the times

Komedordksada said:

-not everything is politics, not everything is propaganda, sometimes people just want to feel represented with the characters they like, there's nothing wrong with that as long as they don't see it as canon, which is not the case on most of the times

So putting hashtag #pride and #pridemonth2022, drawing a strong, independent, fairly-masculine-despite-was-never-beefy-in-official-sources female character in LGBTwhatever colors is not a form of propaganda, got it.

If people want to feel represented, why don't create other, new characters than using already-established ones? That's called piggybacking popularity, and was known all around as form of marketing. And there's double negatives on your last part: 'as long as they don't see it as canon, which is not the case most of the times' means 'they see it as canon, which happens most of the times'.

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Liszt6 said:

Just a thought. But instead of turning an established character into a political piece, why not make your own? Just a thought.

Is just a drawing, made for pride month, and they just use a character that they like in the image...... Is that hard to understand?

Liszt6 said:

Just a thought. But instead of turning an established character into a political piece, why not make your own? Just a thought.

They'd get less attention that way. These people keep misunderstand "pride" as "please give me attention", and that kind of comment chain is exactly what they want. And if people get mad that characters they like are assimilated to movements they don't like, well, just call them bigots and voilà.

Liszt6 said:

Just a thought. But instead of turning an established character into a political piece, why not make your own? Just a thought.

By that logic you would never get fanart of any character

iori98 said:

By that logic you would never get fanart of any character

Are you saying that every piece of fanart ever created is political?

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Rathurue said:

a form of propaganda

Oh my god, it's a piece of videogame fanart. It's not that deep.

DownWithTheThickness said:

Oh my god, it's a piece of videogame fanart. It's not that deep.

Finally, someone that agrees too

MaximunChromastone said:

Finally, someone that agrees too

Just ignore these people. These are the type of people who watch HeroHei and his clickbait videos.

DownWithTheThickness said:

Oh my god, it's a piece of videogame fanart. It's not that deep.

'It's not that deep'.
Yeah, and so are most people that doesn't know propaganda where they see one.

Taken from Wikipedia: With the rise of the internet and social media, Renee Hobbs identified four characteristic design features of many forms of contemporary propaganda: (1) it activates strong emotions; (2) it simplifies information; (3) it appeals to the hopes, fears, and dreams of a targeted audience; and (4) it attacks opponents..

Further along, the very definition of propaganda was "-communication that is primarily used to influence or persuade an audience to further an agenda, which may not be objective and may be selectively presenting facts to encourage a particular synthesis or perception, or using loaded language to produce an emotional rather than a rational response to the information that is being presented." Propaganda can be neutral, of course, but mostly people accept 'propaganda' as negative term because of the implications of 'altering people's perception of an idea, consciously or subconsciously.'

Let's disassemble this art according to those 4 points:

1: It activates strong emotion. A whole screen spread of Pride Flag. Armored Samus giving you 'validation' via thumbs-up. A never-muscular-feminine-character-but-drawn-muscular-and-masculine. That's enough to deliver a strong message.

2: It simplifies information. Basically, it says 'Samus supports LGBTwhatever movement.'

3: It appeals to the hopes, fears, and dreams of a targeted audience. Need I explain more? See point 1, and the comment 'You deserve to be yourself, and be proud of it'.

4: It attacks opponents. And is doing a great job at it. So great that the post was locked to only followed or mentioned twitter users because the fear of getting backlash.

In conclusion, this picture fits the definition of propaganda. I'm accepting downvotes from people who can't understand that, and simply say this is 'fan art', but twisting an established character to fit ANY movement, political or otherwise, or to use as 'ambassador' for that purpose, in textbook definition, is a form of propaganda.

Take that as you will, and maybe, 5-6 years later if Danbooru still exist people will revisit this again in case of either LGBT movement dominates the world or it got wiped.

People can draw whatever they want, I just wish people would stop calling fanart "representation." Random artist with a few hundred to a few thousand twitter followers drawing canonically straight cis white (or in a lot of recent cases, Japanese) characters as LGBT+ with dark skin is not representation. Just as other commenters have pointed out, it's just fanart. It doesn't have the power genuine representation in mainstream media has. In the same vein, fanart that whitewashes minority characters in no way removes representation, because it's fanart. It doesn't affect the official material whatsoever.

Just say you wanted to do it; it doesn't need to be more complicated than that. Stop trying to justify it with buzzwords, because it needs no justification. It's not like the people getting mad about it are gonna care how you justify it, anyway.

blindVigil said:

People can draw whatever they want, I just wish people would stop calling fanart "representation." Random artist with a few hundred to a few thousand twitter followers drawing canonically straight cis white (or in a lot of recent cases, Japanese) characters as LGBT+ with dark skin is not representation. Just as other commenters have pointed out, it's just fanart. It doesn't have the power genuine representation in mainstream media has. In the same vein, fanart that whitewashes minority characters in no way removes representation, because it's fanart. It doesn't affect the official material whatsoever.

Just say you wanted to do it; it doesn't need to be more complicated than that. Stop trying to justify it with buzzwords, because it needs no justification. It's not like the people getting mad about it are gonna care how you justify it, anyway.

So I think the issue here is intent.
Someone draws a canonically straight character as a LGBT in whatever format you want, yuri, yaoi, etc. No one cares. It's a constant on this site even. Someone draws a character with a different skin tone but it's because they want to and not to "fix it", that's fine.
The line comes when it's used to pushed a political message or trying to claim a character.
This updated flag (which on a side note, why are poc people on this flag? Seems unrelated) is pretty heavily political. Changing a character to fix them or claim is also ridiculous. Hell. I'd reckon there be an issue if you associated canonically apolitical characters with political parties without it being some sort of meme.
Let me ask this. Would it be an issue if instead of a LGBT flag, it was a "Don't Tread on Me" flag? Confederate flag? Not saying these are preferable or acceptable. I just don't like associating apolitical things with political things.

Liszt6 said:

Hell. I'd reckon there be an issue if you associated canonically apolitical characters with political parties without it being some sort of meme.
Let me ask this. Would it be an issue if instead of a LGBT flag, it was a "Don't Tread on Me" flag? Confederate flag? Not saying these are preferable or acceptable. I just don't like associating apolitical things with political things.

At worst? It would turn into an argument about the subject itself and get locked for being off topic. You can draw characters supporting political parties (post #4188779), attacking others (post #3334348), supporting ideologies directly opposing their creator (post #3651846), and even supporting the KKK (post #4666230), and no one will seriously care.
If you don't like LGBT pride, blacklist the tag. We're not here to cancel artists based on what they choose to draw.

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Raynare said:

Just ignore these people. These are the type of people who watch HeroHei and his clickbait videos.

To be fair, I do watch some of his videos and I still think the people crying about this picture are acting like fools.

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...This art is cute and harmless and this comment section only provides more evidence that whining about "propaganda" and "wokeness" and "SJWs" (gag me with a spoon) only proves one thing: a dog suffering with diarrhea would provide more intelligent and compelling conversation.

And trying to make an equivalence between LGBT+ pride art and Trump support art with this supposed "co-opting"? Really? Call it "political radicals corrupting the sanctity of art and this cherished website by manufacturing support for an outside agenda by the Far-Left", if you want to sound all threatening and ominous about it. Go whole hog, it can't hurt your argument any more then what's already been done.

The thing is really cute, though.

Honestly the colors are placed really well, this is a good design

Man Artists lately are getting all these drama-fueled attacks because they picked 1 or 2 colors or switching genders geez.

CGrascal said:

To be fair, I do watch some of his videos and I still think the people crying about this picture are acting like fools.

In first: Ew HeroHei (That guy is a total idiot that only weebs without attention enjoy). In second: Finally, a weeb with brain and thanks for the support

Rathurue said:

'Content like this in weeb site'.

So where should you put content like this? Twitter, where woke people will upvote it for boosting their virtue-signaling attempts on pride month?
Samus was never (even) hinted to be a bi on her original lore. And there's this artist putting her on front of pride flag. It's not issue of 'being well drawn', but of 'woke propaganda'.

And the fact that your comment got that many downvotes shows this site has the same kind of cancer festering in it.

Rust-Kaiser said:

And the fact that your comment got that many downvotes shows this site has the same kind of cancer festering in it.

Y'all are only proving my point with the down votes!

Alright, enough of this. Nobody cares that you jerk off to downvotes.

nonamethanks said:

Alright, enough of this. Nobody cares that you jerk off to downvotes.

And I really don't give a damn what you think, regardless of you being an admin or not. Looking over my post/comment history and your involvement, it's clear your part of that cancer I mentioned. Another woke twitter or redditard that found their way here and shat in the pool to claim it for themselves. Go line up your asshole, take a flying leap and land right on a cactus and sandpaper dildo you self-righteous little bastard. I'm outta here.

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DownWithTheThickness said:

Oh my god, it's a piece of videogame fanart. It's not that deep.

Yes, it is that deep. The most powerful way to push an agenda, whether good or evil, is through the arts. Such as the visual, through music, through the movies and literature and so on. That’s the way it’s always been.

I had thought I had commented on this before but I can't tell anymore. Perhaps not?

While I like the bold color application on the suit - that's arguably the best way to do it - the rainbow bands around the joints seem sloppy. The mixing and muting of the colors is fine, but the mismatch between the lines inside the bands and where the colors muddy makes it seem like the two were separate ideas that never came together. The whiteness of the suit is overwhelming but imagining it with shading gives it a more pleasing balance with the rest of the colors.

shinobivega said:

Yes, it is that deep. The most powerful way to push an agenda, whether good or evil, is through the arts. Such as the visual, through music, through the movies and literature and so on. That’s the way it’s always been.

You're a roleplayer that takes pictures too seriously, your opinion doesn't matter

Surprised no one mentioned the comment that one of the og Developers made in an interview about Samus actually being a 'new-type', i.e. trans.

Aside from that, Samus *is* Trans in another way. She is no mere human. Depending on what 'lore' you go with, that Samus was either cyborg at the start or if she was raised by Chozos, she's either Part-Cyborg or Part-Chozo. Meaning she has TRANS-sitioned her humanity. Further more, she's also had an injection of Metroid DNA into her body that fundamentally changed her.

No matter how you twist and turn it, Samus is and always has been, trans, Human+ as it's also called.
So enjoy that factoid because it' snot "propaganda", it's merely fact.

I just like the colors

I Love Her Outfit!!🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️