Finally, a reaction that ISN'T one of shock or embarassment! Trust Mokou to be all calm and collected about it, even though she's concerned about the whole immortality thing. Though happy tears are perfectly fine.
Simple solution: after making absolutely sure that Mokou is the right woman for you, poke Eirin til she makes another dose of Hourai Elixir. But you better be DAMN sure you want Mokou, cuz right now there's no antidote for the elixir.
WatcherCCG said: Finally, a reaction that ISN'T one of shock or embarassment! Trust Mokou to be all calm and collected about it, even though she's concerned about the whole immortality thing. Though happy tears are perfectly fine.
Simple solution: after making absolutely sure that Mokou is the right woman for you, poke Eirin til she makes another dose of Hourai Elixir. But you better be DAMN sure you want Mokou, cuz right now there's no antidote for the elixir.
Don't worry all you need is to eat her guts so you become immortal too like remi said on Imperishable Night to Sakuya-If you eat her stomach you become immortal
Ragna_Darkness said: Don't worry all you need is to eat her guts so you become immortal too like remi said on Imperishable Night to Sakuya-If you eat her stomach you become immortal
It was a liver, not stomach (Yuyuko said). Remi said only "guts", she didn't specify it.
Ragna_Darkness said: Don't worry all you need is to eat her guts so you become immortal too like remi said on Imperishable Night to Sakuya-If you eat her liver you become immortal
Oh, that's true. But that still raises the question of do you REALLY want Mokou and only Mokou, as well as living forever with her.
WatcherCCG said: Finally, a reaction that ISN'T one of shock or embarassment! Trust Mokou to be all calm and collected about it, even though she's concerned about the whole immortality thing.
Justy said: Well, it's not like she can kill you out of jealousy or anything, you know.
It's more are you willing to throw away your "final reward" of either death or afterlife as a Celestial to live forever with Mokou. You need to seriously contemplate and ponder this question before you even step up and confess. If you think you can live with her until the gods all pool their power at the end of time to erase everything, if you believe your love can last to that final death-knell of the universe, then you are ready to admit your feelings.
And if you're lucky, and she loves you back, she'll thrust her hand into her belly, pull out a lobe of her liver, and offer to share her life with you. But you'd better be damn sure you're ready, because once you get the Hourai Elixir in your system, there is no "til death do us part." You'd better be sure you love her before you go down this path, or you'll just go insane from the long eons of lonely immortality.
You people need to listen to Queen's "Princes of the Universe".
Crappy TV programs and movies have made death severely overrated. People, there's a reason we mourn death - there's nothing good about dying, since it means you're, uh, *dead*. You know, gone. Rotting and getting eaten by worms.
This is so even in the Touhouverse, where if you die you reincarnate into another being without memories (so the "you" who died is gone), or get sent to suffer in Hell. Of course, there *is* a chance you'll become a Celestial, but canon states that unless you're some sort of ascetic prophet (or your name is Tenshi Hinanai), the chances of that happening are pathetically slim.
So yeah, take immortality. Even if things with Mokou don't turn out (doubtful, Mokou-tan is awesome), you'll have all the time in the world to get over it. This goes for every other problems (philosophical or otherwise) immortality might give you. Yeah, they might get bad, but on the other hand they're dwarfed by the upside - you get to *live forever*.
Yes, live forver. Billions of years in the future when all life on Earth has died and the atmosphere has boiled away, you'll still be here. When the sun goes supernova you'll experience firsthand having your body blasted to its componant atoms. And then after that you'll be floating in space, suffocating endlessly, forever going through the process of dying, but unable to actually DIE.
People always have such a short-ranged view of eternity. Forever is a LONG FREAKING TIME. Mokou is doomed to suffer one of the worst fates imaginable, and for her there is no reprieve.
Think HARD about what it REALLY means to be UNABLE TO DIE. Forever.
Madcat6204 said: Yes, live forver. Billions of years in the future when all life on Earth has died and the atmosphere has boiled away, you'll still be here. When the sun goes supernova you'll experience firsthand having your body blasted to its componant atoms. And then after that you'll be floating in space, suffocating endlessly, forever going through the process of dying, but unable to actually DIE.
Um...Our sun isn't big enough to go supernova, and even then, I'm sure Eirin would probably cook up a pill to, say, fall asleep and dream for eternity instead. Whether she'd give it to Mokou or not, though...well, in the 4.5 billion years from now until the sun dies, Kaguya and Mokou might settle their differences. ;)
Kuyukly said: Um...Our sun isn't big enough to go supernova, and even then, I'm sure Eirin would probably cook up a pill to, say, fall asleep and dream for eternity instead. Whether she'd give it to Mokou or not, though...well, in the 4.5 billion years from now until the sun dies, Kaguya and Mokou might settle their differences. ;)
They'll probably do what that face of Boe guy in Dr Who did and travel the universe.
Another thought if they survive to the next big bang would they become like Galactus and his minions?
Laughs at the thought of a giant Yagokoro destroying worlds and eating celestials.
Well, it all depends on which theory of the universe's timeline you go by. They could be around at the Big Crunch as Galactus was... or the universe may freeze in a heat death, which is estimated to take over 100 billion billion years from now, and all atomic matter decays... in which case all they'll have for company are some free-floating sub-atomic particles.
In either case, one hopes they'll learn the trick of dimensional travel, so they can exist in another reality (which might not even be bound by this dimension's "eternity," leaving them able to die finally)... or that the elixir may be overcome in some way. But since I doubt ZUN will really address this topic...
Canonically, Mokou would probably make a personal joke about it and walk away, laughing to herself along the way.
But if she were to give in a little bit to it, this would probably be her canonical-like reaction. None of that cheesy tsundere stuff. Mokou isn't tsundere at all. She's got her own cool personality.
As for the whole immortality thing...
It's more are you willing to throw away your "final reward" of either death or afterlife as a Celestial to live forever with Mokou. You need to seriously contemplate and ponder this question before you even step up and confess. If you think you can live with her until the gods all pool their power at the end of time to erase everything, if you believe your love can last to that final death-knell of the universe, then you are ready to admit your feelings.
...as he said. And immortality isn't like living for a million years, or a billion years, or even a million times a billion years. Compared to forever, they're all nothing- and eventually will be over. If you looked into Mokou's future and trace her life until her death, you'd be looking infinitely because it doesn't exist, quite literally.
Living forever... would you be willing to open your eyes and see what nobody has ever seen before? Live a life of neverending? You better not have any regrets, because there's no turning back. If you really would be serious about it, the doorway to that life is behind her right arm... the Hourai Elixir. The medicine of eternal life.
All this talk about the sun blowing up, doesnt Gensokyo live on another axis of existance from the real world in the first place? Gensokyo is supposed to be a land of dreams and "unreal" things right? So wouldnt that mean Gensokyo itself would exists forever with none of that universe blowing up on itself anyway?
Well yeah, but it's not like ZUN is ever going to address such things as Gensokyo's possible place in the universe, so we're either left to assume it will follow the same path as the outside world or, well, not. We don't know. We probably never will.
Good point, though, except that Gensokyo does interact with the outside world--if it goes, what happens to Gensokyo?
Kuyukly said: Well yeah, but it's not like ZUN is ever going to address such things as Gensokyo's possible place in the universe, so we're either left to assume it will follow the same path as the outside world or, well, not. We don't know. We probably never will.
Good point, though, except that Gensokyo does interact with the outside world--if it goes, what happens to Gensokyo?
If something were to happen to the outside world? At most, residents of Gensokyo will probably not be able to come to the outside world anymore.
Justy said: It was a liver, not stomach (Yuyuko said). Remi said only "guts", she didn't specify it.
(And it actually makes sense, anatomically.)
Ikigomo?
Eitherway I think this is one of the saddest in the series, along with post #587152 It sure looks to me like she's torn between the happiness that she feels now and the eventual sadness that is to come when she witnesses the confessor die. Alas that is the saddest thing about immortality, it makes the sweet embrace of death ever more pleasing.
Either that, or she is reminded by the events that transpired between Kaguya and her father, but really, I can't see that happening here myself...
That face. . . is the one that caught me. It's the face of someone who knows there are worse things than dying alone. But for just one fleeting flicker in time, there's a smile there.
Mad kudos to the artist. That picture has expertly diced my heart, and is grilling the pieces on skewers.
Mokou... was never able to go back to earth... becoming a life form between organic and mineral, she wandered for eternity into the endless void known as space. Being unable to die even though she wished for it, Mokou eventually stopped thinking.
I'm not terribly overfond of Mokou, but my respect for her just went up after seeing this. She keeps her dignity, and even then you can see she's happy. Beautiful.
Canonically she never looses her dignity and has a kind of cool to her. It's the fanbase that degraded her into the tsunerish pyromaniac. I recognize only the canonical Mokou as the actual Mokou. Everything else is just a lie pressed down by the public and media.
DoctorVisigoth said: Mokou... was never able to go back to earth... becoming a life form between organic and mineral, she wandered for eternity into the endless void known as space. Being unable to die even though she wished for it, Mokou eventually stopped thinking.
I see what you did there...from Jojo's Bizarre Adventure when Cars is blown off the volcano into space at the end of Series 2, right?
Well, I'm not sure if I would wish to become immortal, but if I can at least stay with the lady I love and always be by her side, I would head over to Eirin's and ask for some Hourai Elixir.
Madcat6204 said: Yes, live forver. Billions of years in the future when all life on Earth has died and the atmosphere has boiled away, you'll still be here. When the sun goes supernova you'll experience firsthand having your body blasted to its componant atoms. And then after that you'll be floating in space, suffocating endlessly, forever going through the process of dying, but unable to actually DIE.
People always have such a short-ranged view of eternity. Forever is a LONG FREAKING TIME. Mokou is doomed to suffer one of the worst fates imaginable, and for her there is no reprieve.
Think HARD about what it REALLY means to be UNABLE TO DIE. Forever.
I think by the time that's an issue there'll be spaceships available to leave and find a newer planet.
I think by the time that's an issue there'll be spaceships available to leave and find a newer planet.
you will be assuming humanity gets that far to begin with
Rather than Keine, to think that you'd come to me... I can't live in the same flow of time as you, you know?Even so, are you OK with that...?...I see, then I'm happy as well...
