FRien said: On another note, I like how they know about french toast, even if Gensokyo is sealed since... 1885? Frenh toast are quite recent, right?
Actually, the first recipe in print dates to the 1600s, and it's been a popular dish around the world any place where people both raise chickens and don't want to throw away old bread.
Norondor said: Actually, the first recipe in print dates to the 1600s, and it's been a popular dish around the world any place where people both raise chickens and don't want to throw away old bread.
And we french people call them "pain perdu", aka "lost bread" if translated exactly. The more you know...!
And "French" toast, like in fries is more related to the fact that it's fried. Belgiums are really sensitive about it, since they claim to have invented fried potatoes...
Here it's just called "Fatias Douradas" (Golden Slices) or "Rabanadas" (*no direct translation*)
And this Okuu melts my heart faster than butter on a hot pan.
Silly Okuu there's no "french" in... you know what forget it. I'm going to stop there before we get a french character from the outside world in the main series for some random reason, not that I mind. :D
I think the problem with French toast is less with the fact that french toast was invented late, and more that the Meiji restoration that opened Japan back up (and henceforth introduced more western foods into the mainstream, including bread) didn't happen until 19C, and thus it would be a small amount of time between the start of the Restoration and the creation of the Border. Indeed imo it's surprising that they have bread in the first place...
...if they have bread, though, french toast COULD exist in Japan as tempura was introduced in 16C by the Portuguese, so it's not that large of a leap in imagination to imagine a similar method applied to bread.
Hmmm, I really like french toasts too. And I only learnt now that they're called that way in the English-speaking world, I've known them as rabanadas for my whole life. Didn't know they were so popular, too. The more you know!
aaabd said: I think the problem with French toast is less with the fact that french toast was invented late, and more that the Meiji restoration that opened Japan back up (and henceforth introduced more western foods into the mainstream, including bread) didn't happen until 19C, and thus it would be a small amount of time between the start of the Restoration and the creation of the Border. Indeed imo it's surprising that they have bread in the first place...
...if they have bread, though, french toast COULD exist in Japan as tempura was introduced in 16C by the Portuguese, so it's not that large of a leap in imagination to imagine a similar method applied to bread.
Well you don't HAVE to know about France OR told the recipe from someone that knows what French Toast is in order to actually make it. You could say they just decided to try making something like that one day... but calling it French Toast, that I got nothing for.
SpecterVonBaren said: Well you don't HAVE to know about France OR told the recipe from someone that knows what French Toast is in order to actually make it. You could say they just decided to try making something like that one day... but calling it French Toast, that I got nothing for.
Yes - that's exactly what I was saying, if somehow they had bread they could make it. Bread, however, is not part of traditional Japanese cuisine, and I have trouble trying to imagine how making bread would've had taken hold in Gensokyo, especially since the population is kinda small.
I mean, I seem to remember somewhere that ancient Japan sweets included a form of chestnut cookies, a lot of the wagashi of old include fried wheat/rice flour, and that there is bread made from rice - so it being spontaneously invented is barely possible, but bread in mainstream consumption is still stretching it.
aaabd said: Yes - that's exactly what I was saying, if somehow they had bread they could make it. Bread, however, is not part of traditional Japanese cuisine, and I have trouble trying to imagine how making bread would've had taken hold in Gensokyo, especially since the population is kinda small.
I mean, I seem to remember somewhere that ancient Japan sweets included a form of chestnut cookies, a lot of the wagashi of old include fried wheat/rice flour, and that there is bread made from rice - so it being spontaneously invented is barely possible, but bread in mainstream consumption is still stretching it.
DHP said: Silly Okuu there's no "french" in... you know what forget it. I'm going to stop there before we get a french character from the outside world in the main series for some random reason, not that I mind. :D
It would make sense for the SDM and it's Western residents to be French, judging by the names and such.
But I don't think they went underground to teach anyone how to make 'French toast' so it's a moot point for nooow.
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