All hail the most broken Gundam since Turn A...

M_Nagaiisawa said:
All hail the most broken Gundam since Turn A...

Doesn't look broken at all.

M_Nagaiisawa said:
All hail the most broken Gundam since Turn A...

Unicorn and Beginning 30 are in front of the queue, sorry.

Can't speak for the Beginning 30, but there's no way the Unicorn can best the 00 Qan[T]. When I see the Unicorn pull Trans-AM and fire something as big as the Raiser Sword, then I'll say it's as broken as the 00 Qan[T].

RisingDragon said:
Can't speak for the Beginning 30, but there's no way the Unicorn can best the 00 Qan[T]. When I see the Unicorn pull Trans-AM and fire something as big as the Raiser Sword, then I'll say it's as broken as the 00 Qan[T].

Unicorn has its own "Trans-Am", NT-Destroyer. If you have seen the show, just going into that mode makes Newtype weapons ineffective (and allows Unicorn to gain control of them BTW), it turned Kshatriya to scrap metal in seconds.

Then again, U.C. Gundams still border on pseudo-realism, when you talk about a Mobile Suit that can teleport by turning into quantum particles well, that's a bit absurd if you ask me.

God Gundam, Wing Zero, and Double X can pawn each and every single one of them i think.
Raiser Sword? Done, he's free to get a God Finger in face or a free target to shot for either DX or Wing Zero.
NT-Destroyer? Sorry, don't have any of that weapon.
Well, Turn-A can Simply nuke them, and go Moonlight Butterfly if that's not enough.

I don't know anything about Double X, but Wing Zero definitely can not handle Qan[T], what with limited ammo. Qan[T] just quantum teleports out of the way of each shot, or just plain dodges, and waits for Zero to run out of ammo. And, as interesting as the debate of God vs Qan[T] would be, it's hardly relevant because God Gundam is from what is more or less a Super Robot series, and OO is still pretty Real.

I mean, when the damn suit was calculated to be mechanically possible of soloing ALL of ELS, which the entirety of Earth's forces PLUS the rest of Celestial Being could barely dent, then it's pretty damn certain that the thing is broken regardless of who we're comparing it to.

Turn-A is still the most broken, end of story.

No need to Twin Buster Rifle it immediately, just need to wait when he's about to raiser sword and he is free kill.
A beam saber is more than enough to deal with double 00, the least depends on pilot's skill, and all 3 I mentioned above is expert at close range, well, except Garrod Ran maybe.

I still can't see a reason Wing can overcome this stupid MS. 00 can divide himself into quantum particles, teleport to safety or sit behind his GN Field (00 raiser have one so I don't see a reason why they're not putting it into Qant).

Anyway twin buster rifle need to be charged, and so do Raiser Sword. Even when it called a Raiser Sword, it's still shot like he did to the ELS, and speaking about close range, wasn't Exia a gundam that excel in close range? 00 raiser wasn't equipped with GN Sword III for nothing and 00 Qant can swith his GN buster rifle into GN buster sword with a flick of his hands?

If it's DX against 00 then it's on another story since DX's twin satellite cannon is just as broken. But I just have to admit that Qant is better than wing, mainly due to it's Trans Am capability.

Just like to point out that the statement was

M_Nagaiisawa said:
All hail the most broken Gundam since Turn A...

Note the "since", and correct me if I'm wrong, Turn A came out after the WZ, God Gundam, DX, etc? And we all know that Turn A is the true God among Gundams; goes without saying.

That being said, we don't know if the Unicorn's anti-NT capabilities would work on Innovator tech since there does seem to be a biological difference between the two. And finally, NT-Destroyer hasn't got shit on Trans-Am, since Trans-Am on its own is 3x to ALL capabilities, and the Trans-Am of the 00 Raiser was even better than that, and the 00 Qan[T]'s Trans-Am is better still thanks to its improved TDS. Trans-Am is essentially an "I win" button.

tl;dr - Unicorn isn't the most broken Gundam since the Turn A.

I like the Unicorn just as much as you guys, but that doesn't mean I put it at the top of everything like every new Gundam game Bandai releases. I'm not blind.

The 00 Qan[T] Model Kit manual outright says that it could wipe out the entire ELS if Setsuna wanted to. So unless any other gundam (sans Turn A) can compare to the capability of wiping out an entire planetoid and its entire population, there really isn't anything to argue. And no, Unicorn and WZC don't even come close to that level.

ayin said:
No need to Twin Buster Rifle it immediately, just need to wait when he's about to raiser sword and he is free kill.
A beam saber is more than enough to deal with double 00, the least depends on pilot's skill, and all 3 I mentioned above is expert at close range, well, except Garrod Ran maybe.

Why would any sane person use a laser sword that requires ungodly charge time and even more ungodly time to use versus one sole, maneuverable unit. The Raiser Sword is for taking out stationary targets, not other units.

Amraphenson said:
Why would any sane person use a laser sword that requires ungodly charge time and even more ungodly time to use versus one sole, maneuverable unit. The Raiser Sword is for taking out stationary targets, not other units.

00 Qan[T]'s Raiser Sword-ish attack in the movie showed it doesn't take a long-ass time to charge up, unlike the Raiser System used by the 00 Raiser. Twin Buster Rifle still fires faster though.

00 Qan[T] Sword takes about 5 seconds to fire. Slightly longer if it needs to assemble its Buster Sword from the sword bits. The sword is even more powerful than a twin buster rifle. It also has evidenced to have a high particle recharge rate.

As for hitting it, the Sword Bit Shield was able to to tank fire from several battleships. Not to mention it can Quantum Teleport against any incoming hit. WZC has no chance against it.

I can see why Wing Zero can be a match for 00 Qan[T]. Wing Zero does have the "zero system" that transmit every move and possibility of the battle. Also note that 00 Qan[T] can't teleport everytime it about to get hit. It can only Quantum teleport when it in transam which take time to charge up and last for a small duration. Once 00 Qan[T] use transam, all Wing Zero have to do is dodge until it run out of transam and with the zero system doing that would probably be pretty easy. As who is stronger, as much as I love Wing Zero, 00 Qan[T] win by pure firepower. Skill wise and none of the bullshit stuff like transam or zero system, I say Wing Zero.

animelova said:
I can see why Wing Zero can be a match for 00 Qan[T]. Wing Zero does have the "zero system" that transmit every move and possibility of the battle. Also note that 00 Qan[T] can't teleport everytime it about to get hit. It can only Quantum teleport when it in transam which take time to charge up and last for a small duration. Once 00 Qan[T] use transam, all Wing Zero have to do is dodge until it run out of transam and with the zero system doing that would probably be pretty easy. As who is stronger, as much as I love Wing Zero, 00 Qan[T] win by pure firepower. Skill wise and none of the bullshit stuff like transam or zero system, I say Wing Zero.

The 00 Raiser needed to be in Trans-Am to use the Quantization ability--the 00 Qan[T], as we saw in the end, does not. And the ZERO System is not perfect--just because it can transmit all battle possibilities doesn't mean the pilot can act on it. It gives all those possibilities at once. The pilot has to know which action is going to actually happen, and if they guess wrong, they're going to take damage for it.

animelova said:
I can see why Wing Zero can be a match for 00 Qan[T]. Wing Zero does have the "zero system" that transmit every move and possibility of the battle. Also note that 00 Qan[T] can't teleport everytime it about to get hit. It can only Quantum teleport when it in transam which take time to charge up and last for a small duration. Once 00 Qan[T] use transam, all Wing Zero have to do is dodge until it run out of transam and with the zero system doing that would probably be pretty easy. As who is stronger, as much as I love Wing Zero, 00 Qan[T] win by pure firepower. Skill wise and none of the bullshit stuff like transam or zero system, I say Wing Zero.

Zero System eh... well you're forgetting one thing... 00 Qan[T] has a Veda terminal installed in it. We're all aware that Veda was for use for Innovator and Innovades right and also we're aware that with the back up of Veda, the ones that can link to it, namely the Innovators and Innovades, can gain a huge amount of upgrade in the skill department.

pihip said:
Unicorn has its own "Trans-Am", NT-Destroyer. If you have seen the show, just going into that mode makes Newtype weapons ineffective (and allows Unicorn to gain control of them BTW), it turned Kshatriya to scrap metal in seconds.

Though overall capability of the unit only increases during that state and the increase isn't even that comparable to a TRANS-AM'd twin drive mobile suit. 00Q also has a HUUUUGGGEE particle output, quantization, and TRANS-AM Burst to disrupt newtype like abilities(which should theoretically cancel out NT-D's newtype weapon control).

Bottomline... 00Q is still over the scales broken

Fragbet85 said:
The 00 Qan[T] Model Kit manual outright says that it could wipe out the entire ELS if Setsuna wanted to. So unless any other gundam (sans Turn A) can compare to the capability of wiping out an entire planetoid and its entire population, there really isn't anything to argue. And no, Unicorn and WZC don't even come close to that level.

The Devil Gundam could do it on a much grander scale, and Domon defeated it in the God Gundam. Also, the "planetoid" is actually a bit smaller than our moon at 3000 km in diameter, so people tend to overestimate its size. Not that it isn't an impressive feat, but it's a deus ex machina ability comparable to Nu Gundam pushing away axis. It certainly doesn't even come close to comparing with the Moonlight Butterfly, which in full force can cover everything from Earth to Jupiter.

JustPassingThru said:
00Q also has a HUUUUGGGEE particle output, quantization, and TRANS-AM Burst to disrupt newtype like abilities(which should theoretically cancel out NT-D's newtype weapon control).

Even so, the Full Armor variant of the Unicorn has enough weapons to win a war on its own. Not to say the 00Q couldn't do so as well, but it certainly wouldn't be far behind. Mooks wouldn't last long in either case.