alias hand_between_legs -> hand_between_own_legs

BUR #56754 has been approved by @nonamethanks.

remove alias hands_between_legs -> hand_between_legs
create alias hand_between_legs -> hand_between_own_legs
remove alias hand_between_legs -> hand_between_own_legs
create alias hand_between_thighs -> hand_between_own_legs
remove alias hand_between_thighs -> hand_between_own_legs
create alias hand_between_own_thighs -> hand_between_own_legs

Three problem with hand between legs:

• it's supposed to be for a character's hand between their own legs, but it's often used for interactions as well: see hand_between_legs -solo
• we also have hand between thighs, which suffers from the same problem: post #10898837.
• we don't distinguish between one vs both tags between the legs, since hands between legs is aliased to it
• we don't have hand between another's legs/hands between another's legs (again, post #10898837), but there's a risk if we create those they'll end up being 99% fingering.

BUR #56756 has been rejected.

create alias arm_between_legs -> hand_between_own_legs
remove alias arm_between_legs -> hand_between_own_legs
create alias arm_between_own_legs -> hand_between_own_legs

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Last edited: 2022-05-27

Yeah good luck with that. Though that raises a good point that we need a tag for arms deeply between legs, elbow-deep at least. Not sure what to call such a tag.

nonamethanks said in forum #425382:

• we don't have hand between another's legs/hands between another's legs (again, post #10898837), but there's a risk if we create those they'll end up being 99% fingering.

There's a lot of overlap, but how would you find non-fingering results without them? Plus, hands_between_another's_legs is particularly hard to find regardless. I think they should be created - the BUR won't need to be changed, it just needs to happen when hand_between_legs/hand_between_own_legs is gardened.

nonamethanks said in forum #425387:

Though that raises a good point that we need a tag for arms deeply between legs, elbow-deep at least. Not sure what to call such a tag.

Would thighs_around_another's_arm work? It's a bit unintuitive, but anything resembling arm_between_legs is clearly just going to continue to be mistaken for hand_between_own_legs.

Thinking about our single vs multiple hands tags that are often mistaken for one another, I suppose an idea would be to have single hand between own legs, to distinguish it from hands between own legs. We could rename the rest too, but it would be a significant policy change and we have a lot of tags like these: hand on own face vs hands on own face, etc, so that'd warrant a larger discussion and I'm sure people could come up with better alternatives than these lenghty names.

AngryZapdos said in forum #425389:

There's a lot of overlap, but how would you find non-fingering results without them? Plus, hands_between_another's_legs is particularly hard to find regardless. I think they should be created - the BUR won't need to be changed, it just needs to happen when hand_between_legs/hand_between_own_legs is gardened.

Would thighs_around_another's_arm work? It's a bit unintuitive, but anything resembling arm_between_legs is clearly just going to continue to be mistaken for hand_between_own_legs.

I'm not against the tag, I'm just not sure how to name it. thighs_around_another's_arm might be a good idea but it's significantly different from the rest. Another idea is hand deep between another's legs or arm wrapped by another's legs or arm squished between another's legs, but it starts to get really long and unwieldy.

i'm not sure about flattening all of this into 2 tags...

imo there is 2 or 3 postures that could be tagged

arm/hand between thighs post #10697036 thighs closed like head between thighs / straddling
arm/hand in front of crotch post #10721714 thighs open like squatting
arm through legs post #4667153

maybe it should be like this?

hands between legs
hand between legs
hand between thighs -> straddling own arm
hands between thighs -> straddling own arms
arm through legs
arms through legs

and then we imply the bottom ones to the first ones?

or maybe we could just have something like v arms but for only one arm. like half v arms. because i don't think we have a tag for like "character puts their hand in front of their crotch" that isn't covering crotch

nonamethanks said in forum #425393:

I'm not against the tag, I'm just not sure how to name it. thighs_around_another's_arm might be a good idea but it's significantly different from the rest. Another idea is hand deep between another's legs or arm wrapped by another's legs or arm squished between another's legs, but it starts to get really long and unwieldy.

The reason I chose thighs_around_another's_arm is because of the rampant mistagging under arm_between_legs. Anything resembling x_between_legs is similarly begging to be mistaken for hand_between_legs; meanwhile, thighs_around_another's_arm gets the point across while having a different enough name to (hopefully) distinguish itself.

The bulk update request #56754 (forum #425382) has been approved by @nonamethanks.

BUR #58212 has been approved by @nonamethanks.

mass update arm_between_legs solo -> -arm_between_legs hand_between_own_legs
create alias arm_between_own_legs -> hand_between_own_legs
deprecate arm_between_legs
create alias thighs_around_another's_arm -> arm_between_another's_legs

Doing this. arm between legs will need to be moved manually. For now I made arm between another's legs to tag the other type of posts.

The bulk update request #56756 (forum #425387) has been rejected by @nonamethanks.

The bulk update request #58212 (forum #434994) has been approved by @nonamethanks.