Game developer tags

I'd like to motion to delete all tags for video game developers (Nintendo, Sega, Capcom, Konami, Namco, SNK, Square-Enix, etc.). They don't really fit the purpose of a copyright type, and it's better to just search by individual franchise names anyway.

I don't understand what possible benefit there is to be gained from this.

I have SNK and Capcom in my list of favorite tags. Maybe they're not always used when they should be, but that's no reason to get rid of them entirely.

The tags are useless in practice right now because almost nobody thinks of adding them, they'd be quite useful if they were actually used properly.

Take for example Nippon Ichi games: They're crossover fests. Almost every game has one or two characters from another and fanart mixes them up all the time, nevermind the repeated classes. But nobody includes the tag, so screw that.

"Nintendo" would logically bring forth anything from Zelda, to Mario to Diddy Kong, etc and other series which now get a lot of crossover art due to Smash Bros.

Another choice would be to simply create implications for each copyright tag so it's done automatically.

Well I don't know the first thing about Nippon-Ichi so I can't really help there, but I do keep an eye on various capcom franchises and add them as they come by. From my limited experience it seems most people do tag them properly, especially folks like Moebius_Strip who upload a lot.

We've talked about adding those kinds of implications before, but decided against them. I don't quite remember why though...

Along the same lines, should we have anime studio tags like "gainax" and "ghibli"?

Urgh. There's 22 pages of street fighter images without the capcom tag.

Couldn't it be made automatic? Like the cleavage tag adds the breasts tag, and the cat ears tag add animal ears tag.

c09 said:
Urgh. There's 22 pages of street fighter images without the capcom tag.

Couldn't it be made automatic? Like the cleavage tag adds the breasts tag, and the cat ears tag add animal ears tag.

by the way i read it, a conditional tag script should do that, but i never used it myself.
http://danbooru.donmai.us/help/tag_scripts

Actually, I'm assuming that's what tag implications are for. Though I'm not entirely sure how the feature works, I think every street fighter image from now on will add the capcom tag.

Edit: When/if approved by the staff.

ah yea true, seems i misunderstood you at first, sorry =)

Wouldn't it be better to use them as artist tags rather than copyright tags, to identify official art? That's at least how I've been using the capcom tag with rockman images.

I see them as umbrella tags, and with the introduction of favorite tags these umbrella tags have once again become very central. Similar to say, "vocaloid".

Also, "people aren't using them a lot of the time" is not a good argument to get rid of them. With that reasoning, we should also get rid of the "original" tag.

Perhaps we need some other denotation than "copyright" for them, though? I wouldn't know what that would be, maybe "company" or something, though that could just be more confusing.

There are some situations where those tags are useful like combined with crossover or everyone, or when it's more obscure games and characters by them like devilot or fu'un. It'd be rare to stumble on them otherwise.

That's also true, they can be informative. But tags are first and foremost a searching method.

Since there is no current solution to this issue, I figured I might as well resort to applying tag scripts. I'm not having much luck with it, though. Do I need a privileged account in order to do this?

Also, is there a way to apply scripts to more than juts individual images?

What are you attempting to do? There is a mass tag option available to moderators at least, I don't know who else has access to it, but I can use it to do certain things.

I only accept copyright -> copyright implications if they share multiple major characters. One or two cameos don't count. Street Fighter and Vampire share no characters. Makai Kingdom and Disgaea (AFAIK) don't share any major characters. I suppose some SNK games have some character sharing, but there are so many that I'm not sure if it should count.

In comparison, the various Nanoha series share several major characters. The implication is useful in this case.

The reason I'm creating this limitation is because you can go crazy with implications otherwise. Aforementioned Shaft and Gainax tags are an example. Are we going to start using anime and manga tags also? If two copyrights don't share major characters, then as far as I'm concerned the implication is only of academic interest.

If you disagree, then nothing's stopping you from adding these tags manually. It just won't be automated.

I agree with that premise, as the more tags are implicated, the more trouble it makes if you want to have one but not the other, and that causes problems eventually (bunny_suit, I'm looking at you).

Anyway, it can easily be added manually, or mass-edited in.

albert, I think you misunderstood the issue. It's not about the implications between different IPs, but rather the unintended use of the copyright tag for the *companies* that own these IPs.

Personally, I find it wholly inappropriate, mainly because ownership of an IP can change multiple times throughout its course, but also because it promotes a proliferation of superfluous tags (as you had indicated).