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Upload Feedback Thread - post here if your uploads keep getting deleted

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Reading through this whole thread, it seems like a problem with the images being denied is that they rely too much on the subjective taste of the moderators who approve/reject them, rather than them looking at the objective quality of the image itself.

It's fine if you personally don't like something, but that shouldn't cloud your judgement. Gotta remember you're not just approving it for yourself, so your subjective taste should play absolutely no part in it. If the objective quality of the image is good (and yes, art can have objective quality, as it would otherwise be impossible for one to improve their artistic skills if there was no objective measure of quality to improve), then there are those who are bound to like it.

It cannot be just up to the subjective taste of a fraction of a percentage of the userbase to decide for the rest of the users what they like.

Not saying the approval system by vote is bad. Just saying that things should be measured by an objective standard rather than a subjective one. "The image is boring" is a subjective assessment that should more accurately be worded "The images bored ME", and "Obviously no one liked it" more accurately translates to "Obviously none of the SMALL group of people we have vetting these images personally liked it". Neither of those would be proper standards of judging an image's actual objective quality.

Basically, if you don't like it, but can't find anything actually wrong with the image in itself (and it's not violating any ToS either), it shouldn't be denied simply based on your own personal feelings, because those don't matter. You're not approving the images for yourself. You're approving them for a MUCH larger group of people who have a wide variety of tastes and preferences. All that matters is the objective quality of the art.

Is something wrong? My images of three days have no been approved at all and it's really affecting my motivation.. Last week I saw a whole 10 images I uploaded get deleted in one day.. It's pretty disheartening.

ShinkuNY said:

Reading through this whole thread, it seems like a problem with the images being denied is that they rely too much on the subjective taste of the moderators who approve/reject them, rather than them looking at the objective quality of the image itself.

This is not the place for it, make a seperate thread. Spoilers though, I did the same thing and it just won't change anything. This place has been like that for too long and they don't plan on changing it. I'm trying to adapt to it but it's tough.

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ShinkuNY said:

Reading through this whole thread, it seems like a problem with the images being denied is that they rely too much on the subjective taste of the moderators who approve/reject them, rather than them looking at the objective quality of the image itself.

It's fine if you personally don't like something, but that shouldn't cloud your judgement. Gotta remember you're not just approving it for yourself, so your subjective taste should play absolutely no part in it. If the objective quality of the image is good (and yes, art can have objective quality, as it would otherwise be impossible for one to improve their artistic skills if there was no objective measure of quality to improve), then there are those who are bound to like it.

It cannot be just up to the subjective taste of a fraction of a percentage of the userbase to decide for the rest of the users what they like.

Not saying the approval system by vote is bad. Just saying that things should be measured by an objective standard rather than a subjective one. "The image is boring" is a subjective assessment that should more accurately be worded "The images bored ME", and "Obviously no one liked it" more accurately translates to "Obviously none of the SMALL group of people we have vetting these images personally liked it". Neither of those would be proper standards of judging an image's actual objective quality.

Basically, if you don't like it, but can't find anything actually wrong with the image in itself (and it's not violating any ToS either), it shouldn't be denied simply based on your own personal feelings, because those don't matter. You're not approving the images for yourself. You're approving them for a MUCH larger group of people who have a wide variety of tastes and preferences. All that matters is the objective quality of the art.

Just post good stuff and I'll approve it.
That's not rocket science and there isn't much else behind the approval process.

Btt please.

Lacrimosa said:

Just post good stuff and I'll approve it.

Sorry, but you saying that will make people think that what they're posting, and by extend their taste, is bad and there's consistencies in the 'subjective quality standards'. So I'm not dissing on you because why would I, you're just someone clicking on buttons you have your own life like everyone else, but I just want anyone else reading to get SOME relief from the fact that the approval process is not perfect.

the following list is [deleted post(approved post)], same artists:

[post #3565572, post #3565574 (post #3522406)]
[post #3563640 (post #2792734)]
[post #3563639 (post #1202658)]
[post #3563634 (post #2778452)]
[post #3563633 (post #2591834)]
[post #3562626 (post #3563635)](actually bad)
[post #35548513, post #3553957 (post #3561729)]
[post #3547783 (post #3143341)]
[post #3533994 (post #3502772)](actually bad)
[post #3533977 (post #3104961)](actually bad)
[post #3530596 (post #3525237)](actually bad)
[post #3522362 (post #3055283)]

If you're annoyed by me posting this, then just know it's not for you. I can't comb through 114 pages of salt, so I don't know if it's already has been said, but I see people like CuteBara and SamoanPup and get genuinely worried that they take this website too seriously. I mean yeah I come here hourly to check on the yuri tag, but to actually feel frustrated at some guys looking at an image and clicking buttons?

Calm down. Hopefully the people who need to see this do.

edit: thanks for the feedback, some are actually bad, but some got undeleted, but my point isnt mooted. read my next post.

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The problem is rather the harsh tone (like, caps don't help at all) that surfaces when the approvers or the approval process is adressed. I mean, it's frustrating when a lot of posts don't get approved, however it's no reason to be harsh with us. We listen to you and review your posts here, albeit not all approvers do that. Myself included but I don't have that much to do irl, compared to the last three months.
Anyway, I've approved some of your uploads but not all because they either feature wonky perspective (post #3530596), bad anatomy (post #3533977), a mix of both (post #3533994) or just aren't good (post #3562626).
Yes, other stuff from these artists are approved but do they have an impact on the deleted images on Danbooru? No. Images should be judged indepebdant of who draws something. So you end up with deleted and active uploads for every artist, even popular ones.

However, popular artists get a free pass on some art they throw out...sadly. That isn't even that rare on top of that. That isn't a problem of the approval process but it's a problem nonetheless. But you can hardly avoid that because humans aren't machines. So that isn't a real flaw because you can't do anything about that. However, keeping it in mind will help you a ton.

Lacrimosa said:

But you can hardly avoid that because humans aren't machines. So that isn't a real flaw because you can't do anything about that. However, keeping it in mind will help you a ton.

Just in case there's a misunderstanding, I didn't blast any approvers. Hopefully I don't come out that way. I'm just really worried about people who gets distressed and post long-winded stuff in the forums. Well, I guess my posts are long too.

And I was worried that maybe you undeleting my posts could have made my above point moot, but check my post history if you want, I appealed them and got ignored.

(btw in case you were specifically refering to me in your post, again im just here to look at yuri and share some, maybe respond to shinkuNY with something other than "its not rocket science)

Uzimaki-BE said:

I don't get it that this one got accepted, post #2608256, while this one is not, post #3574712, while the art is from the same artist, but with only one minor difference, that there is a text added.

Why would we want the version with the text in the way when we already have the clean version? It doesn’t look like the text adds anything interesting.

Commander31 said:

post #3575538
post #3578164
post #3243416
post #3243361

why the deletion?

The first is dodgy perspective, the third dodgy anatomy (look at the way her leg connects with her right butt cheek...), the second is a completely mediocre gif of something utterly unremarkable, and the fourth, while well drawn, is grainy and coated in watermarks.

Uzimaki-BE said:

I don't understand what's wrong with these 3? post #3581019 post #3581020 and post #3581021 while this one that was uploaded 3 years ago post #2314536 got accepted, and these other 3 are all from the same artist.

They're all poor (her right arm is almost two-dimensional, and you should be able to see muchmore of her right leg from that angle). It's worth pointing out that post #2314536 did not get approved but were uploaded by someone with unrestricted uploads - someone would have had to actively flag it for it to be deleted, and while it's bad like the others, they're not bad enough for me to bother flagging. The background does at least somewhat reduce the emphasis on the flawed parts of the image as well...

They're all poor (her right arm is almost two-dimensional, and you should be able to see muchmore of her right leg from that angle). It's worth pointing out that post #2314536 did not get approved but were uploaded by someone with unrestricted uploads - someone would have had to actively flag it for it to be deleted, and while it's bad like the others, they're not bad enough for me to bother flagging. The background does at least somewhat reduce the emphasis on the flawed parts of the image as well...

I see, still pretty ridiculous to unapprove the other 3 works of the artist, while the first one is there, if you ask me.