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houjuu nue and morichika rinnosuke (touhou and 1 more) drawn by setz

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    UFOPORNOOOO.jpg

    The long-awaited sequel is here.
    Background borrowed from https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Kourindou for the authentic Ufoporno-feeling.
    And don't worry, this won't be the last "episode". It's just a quote from the original skit.

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    MynOtra
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    Moonspeaker said:
    "A real sugar on the bottom"? Not familiar with that idiom. Is it sort of like "a cherry on top", a nice finisher to something already good?

    Yeah, it's literal translation from Finnish idiom. And translating idioms literally is very stupid.

    budoka_azathoth said:
    Edit: Oh, and by the way, "Kourindoun" seems to be a deliberate misspelling.

    No, it isn't. It might come from some Finnish dialect, but leaving the n letter in English translation is plainly wrong.

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    Wiimeiser
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    MynOtra said:
    No, it isn't. It might come from some Finnish dialect, but leaving the n letter in English translation is plainly wrong.

    post #673220 has Ranilla...

    njinx said:
    As for Ranilla, it actually means "Ran has [something]". Finnish does not really use prepositions like English does, instead it's all about playing around with prefixes and suffixes. -lla/-llä adds a possessive meaning to the subject (Ran). However, you can't add it straight after a consonate, so -i is added in between. So you can break the word down into three components: The "core" word, harmonic vowel, and the possessive suffix. Ran|i|lla.

    I wonder if there's a connection?

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    bitofhope
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    MynOtra said:
    Yeah, it's literal translation from Finnish idiom. And translating idioms literally is very stupid.

    I couldn't think of a matching English idiom so I left it literal (Thinking back, a stupid thing to do. I know.) because I thought it would get the meaning across anyway. I fixed it now to the cherry thing (I wonder how I didn't think of that).

    No, it isn't. It might come from some Finnish dialect, but leaving the n letter in English translation is plainly wrong.

    Wiimeiser said:
    post #673220 has Ranilla...
    I wonder if there's a connection?

    I disagree here. Adding the n here is incorrect in Finnish and doesn't happen in any dialect I know of. The grammatically correct forms are "Kourindoulla" and "Kourindoun" instead of the ones you see with the added "ni"/"in". It sounds silly to a Finnish speaker. I believe the artist added it on purpose either because it's funny or as a reference to something and if the artist intended Finnish speakers to find it wrong, the translation should follow suit IMO. I think it should be left so at least until someone knows what it's referring to or the artist says something about the matter. There's a discussion going on about the subject on the imageboard this was posted.

    And no. There's no connection unless setz speaks some kind of dialect that I'm less familiar with. The "-illa" in "Ranilla" is perfectly correct standard Finnish morpheme.

    Feel free to edit my translations, though. I'm not saying nobody could do better. ;)

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    Moonspeaker
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    budoka_azathoth said:

    I couldn't think of a matching English idiom so I left it literal (Thinking back, a stupid thing to do. I know.) because I thought it would get the meaning across anyway. I fixed it now to the cherry thing (I wonder how I didn't think of that).

    No problem. I know zero Finnish, so I didn't want to leap in blind, as it were, and "fix" it. I figured suggesting the change in comments and letting you, the translator, decide was safer.

    Updated by Moonspeaker

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    akainenkana
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    budoka_azathoth said:

    I couldn't think of a matching English idiom so I left it literal (Thinking back, a stupid thing to do. I know.) because I thought it would get the meaning across anyway. I fixed it now to the cherry thing (I wonder how I didn't think of that).

    I disagree here. Adding the n here is incorrect in Finnish and doesn't happen in any dialect I know of. The grammatically correct forms are "Kourindoulla" and "Kourindoun" instead of the ones you see with the added "ni"/"in". It sounds silly to a Finnish speaker. I believe the artist added it on purpose either because it's funny or as a reference to something and if the artist intended Finnish speakers to find it wrong, the translation should follow suit IMO. I think it should be left so at least until someone knows what it's referring to or the artist says something about the matter. There's a discussion going on about the subject on the imageboard this was posted.

    And no. There's no connection unless setz speaks some kind of dialect that I'm less familiar with. The "-illa" in "Ranilla" is perfectly correct standard Finnish morpheme.

    Feel free to edit my translations, though. I'm not saying nobody could do better. ;)

    Well, as a native Fin, I didn't even think it should be -lla instead of what it's now. Don't really care either way, though, as they both sound fine to me, even if the other is grammatically incorrect.

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    bitofhope
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    akainenkana said:
    Well, as a native Fin, I didn't even think it should be -lla instead of what it's now. Don't really care either way, though, as they both sound fine to me, even if the other is grammatically incorrect.

    OK, I guess it's a regional thing.

    Someone already changed them anyway. I guess it's best like this.

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    Katajanmarja
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    budoka_azathoth said:

    I disagree here. Adding the n here is incorrect in Finnish and doesn't happen in any dialect I know of. The grammatically correct forms are "Kourindoulla" and "Kourindoun" instead of the ones you see with the added "ni"/"in". It sounds silly to a Finnish speaker.

    I would say it makes an impression pretty similar to Gollum's "Oh, we like goblinses, batses, and fishes, but we hasn't tried Hobbitses before."

    I think it should be left so at least until someone knows what it's referring to or the artist says something about the matter. There's a discussion going on about the subject on the imageboard this was posted.

    Any further news so far?

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