One thing I like about Ido's Iowa is that she's way too chauvinistic to go native like the Germans did. She's a hero in her mind, she's got hot dogs, and you can suck eggs.
ps. And to be honest, Bismark should have more fear than us of the british, since they sent her in the bottom of the sea.
They only did so after made them pay for it with blood and frustrated tears, leading them on a merry chase for several days. Also, she sank the HMS Hood; that's probably why Warspite is reacting so intensely.
Roma, Littorio, don't draw back! It's time to getting even once and for all! FOR THE HONOR!!!^^
ps. And to be honest, Bismark should have more fear than us of the british, since they sent her in the bottom of the sea.
Bismarck dislikes bombers, b/c one damaged her rudder which ultimately lead to her demise. Thus you can say more so than British ships she might have a fear of British planes.
anyway, I hope that for the next event they'll add even the HMS Valiant (or Queen Elizabeth, or both of them) and the italian submarine Sciré (or any other italian u-boot equipped with the MAS). There would be a lot of material for many comic strips, since the british ships have a problematic relationship with italian submarines^^
They only did so after made them pay for it with blood and frustrated tears, leading them on a merry chase for several days. Also, she sank the HMS Hood; that's probably why Warspite is reacting so intensely.
yeah, they sent quite a lot to sink just a single ship facing her 1 on 1 would be a nightmare, lol not to mention her sister is also one though ship to sink
Roma, Littorio, don't draw back! It's time to getting even once and for all! FOR THE HONOR!!!^^
ps. And to be honest, Bismark should have more fear than us of the british, since they sent her in the bottom of the sea.
Bismarck is damaged by British planes, not British ships. Despite Bismarcked is heavily damaged by planes, no British ships can penetrate Bismarck's mighty armor.
Bismarck is damaged by British planes, not British ships. Despite Bismarcked is heavily damaged by planes, no British ships can penetrate Bismarck's mighty armor.
Bismark can be penetrated by british WW II ships but she's a tough cookie. ( and of course she's also fast, which was a major issue for the british ships ( especially their slow battleships ) chasing her down. )
Ultimately her own crew scuttled her with charges after she was maimed ( all main guns taken out, completely aflame, operations, bridge and plotting rooms destroyed ) , and unable to take offensive action with only 200~ of her crew still alive. ( out of over a thousand crewmembers )
Technically, the British never directly sunk her ( but certainly causde it semi-directly), you could say, but either way they made her completely inoperable.
Bismarck is damaged by British planes, not British ships. Despite Bismarcked is heavily damaged by planes, no British ships can penetrate Bismarck's mighty armor.
stoicapple said:
Bismark can be penetrated by british WW II ships but she's a tough cookie. ( and of course she's also fast, which was a major issue for the british ships ( especially their slow battleships ) chasing her down. )
Ultimately her own crew scuttled her with charges after she was maimed ( all main guns taken out, completely aflame, operations, bridge and plotting rooms destroyed ) , and unable to take offensive action with only 200~ of her crew still alive. ( out of over a thousand crewmembers )
Technically, the British never directly sunk her ( but certainly causde it semi-directly), you could say, but either way they made her completely inoperable.
Roma, this isn't time to be calling Germans on her. Remember who sank you in the past life?
Wasn't it the Luftwaffe that did her and Littorio in? German ships (the Kriegsmarine) are fine. So she's fine with the Bismarck outside of soccer games and car accidents.
Wasn't it the Luftwaffe that did her and Littorio in? German ships (the Kriegsmarine) are fine. So she's fine with the Bismarck outside of soccer games and car accidents.
well said! Then let's form a team and throw the Laymey out from the Mare Nostrum!^^
Wasn't it the Luftwaffe that did her and Littorio in? German ships (the Kriegsmarine) are fine. So she's fine with the Bismarck outside of soccer games and car accidents.
Warspite can bond with the Italians over hating the Luftwaffe since most of the damage inflicted on her in the war came from them.
Bismark can be penetrated by british WW II ships but she's a tough cookie. ( and of course she's also fast, which was a major issue for the british ships ( especially their slow battleships ) chasing her down. )
Ultimately her own crew scuttled her with charges after she was maimed ( all main guns taken out, completely aflame, operations, bridge and plotting rooms destroyed ) , and unable to take offensive action with only 200~ of her crew still alive. ( out of over a thousand crewmembers )
Technically, the British never directly sunk her ( but certainly causde it semi-directly), you could say, but either way they made her completely inoperable.
HMS Rodney knocked out all four of Bismarck's main guns in 30 minutes of fighting. But instead of finishing Bismarck off, Rodney closed to point blank and spent a hour pounding 16-inch salvos into Bismarck's superstructure. If HMS Rodney wanted Bismarck, a few point-blank shells into her waterline would have done the job. Instead, Rodney wanted Bismarck to suffer. But what else can you expect from one of the Big 7.
Roma, Littorio, don't draw back! It's time to getting even once and for all! FOR THE HONOR!!!^^
ps. And to be honest, Bismark should have more fear than us of the british, since they sent her in the bottom of the sea.
It doesn't seems to me that Littorio had ever withdraw in front of British ships infact (Roma simply didn't took part in any surface clash).
Panzercracker said:
Bismarck is damaged by British planes, not British ships. Despite Bismarcked is heavily damaged by planes, no British ships can penetrate Bismarck's mighty armor.
Really Bismark hd been damaged by three shots of the Prince of Wales first to encounter the British planes, and one of them caused unusual heavy flooding (1000-2000 tons of water embarked) for a single AP shell. All Three the Littorio class Battleships had been targeted by far heavier allied aerial bombings than those that damaged Bismark, and none of them had been damaged by a single British gunshot. Reality is that no WWII armor could withstand a Battleship round fired from short distance. But simply was very difficult to sink a big ship ship only by gunshots. Even the Zara, far smaller and lighter than a battleship, was still afloat and not in immediate danger to sink after having been targeted by two battleships at point blank range at Cape Matapan.
MarqFJA87 said:
They only did so after made them pay for it with blood and frustrated tears, leading them on a merry chase for several days. Also, she sank the HMS Hood; that's probably why Warspite is reacting so intensely.
On the other hand, Bismarck's mission had been compeltely useless, and her sinking increased British morale more than the loss of the Hood had decreased it. Littorio and Vittorio Veneto took part in several of the clashes that decided the war in the Mediterranean, and every time were up to fight again.
It doesn't seems to me that Littorio had ever withdraw in front of British ships infact (Roma simply didn't took part in any surface clash).
Speaking again of the supposed friendship between warspite and the italians, apart from the little joke at Alexandria, Warspite sunk Fiume at Cape Matapan. So, even considering the not so peaceful relations in Africa, Greece and Southern Italy, i don't see many hopes of peace between warspite and the italian ships^^
Not this shit again: QE and Valiant were only temporarily put out of action.
And I'll repeat it again and again till you'll understand it: QE and Warspite's contribution to the war proved to be all but unimportant after they sunk in Alexandria. For the time they've been repared, they lost both the Mediterranean War and the Atlantic War, and during the Pacific War both of them played a secondary role, coming back in UK even before the war's end. Being on service and be determinant are different things, so for this their war almost completely finished after Alexandria's raid. You can deny the italians' victories as much as you want, since for you we'll always be "pizzapasta&mandolino", but fortunately we don't forget. And I in particoular will not forget, thanks to my uncle (Yes, my uncle-in-law was Antonio Marceglia, the HERO that SUNK the Queen Elisabeth)
Not this shit again: QE and Valiant were only temporarily put out of action.
After the Raid of Alxandria, for them, there wasn't real surface action at all. With the torpedoing of the Nelson on 27 September 1941, the sinking of the Barham on 25 November 1941 and the disabling of Queen Elizabeth and Valiant on 19 december 1941, The activity of the British big guns in the Mediterranean virtually ceased. The air and submarine threat in central and east Mediterranean had become too heavy to risk them. In 1942, in the attempts to resupply Malta, British battleships sailed only few miles out of the ports in friendly waters, then leaving light cruisers and destroyers to be mauled with the merchants. A situation that didn't change until the end of the war in N. Africa and the complete depletion of the fuel of the Italian Navy.
This is what you get when history nerds as fans in a game about cute shipgirls. Let's be at least be civil about it. As informative this is let's keep the shit flinging to a minimum.
Not this shit again: QE and Valiant were only temporarily put out of action.
Well, to be fair, some authors say that at Taranto not just the Conte di Cavour got sunk...
Anyway, the disabling for months of these two battleships was not a light blow for the Mediterranean Fleet, which was deprived of capital ships, making eventual supply runs potentially much riskier.
Arguably, that could've been a worse situation than the one of the Regia Marina after Taranto, as its main battleforce was hurt, but not taken out of action altogether.
iwatchhentai said:
Which sisters? The only Queen Elizabeth class Battleship sunk by direct enemy action was HMS Barham which was torpedoed by a German U-Boat.
"Sunk" is used here not as the ultimate fate of the ships, but only to what happened to them after the raid of Alexandria. And, although it seems that neither battleship actually bottomed off, they still had to be patched and refloated, so I believe it still counts.
Dogwalker said:
A situation that didn't change until the end of the war in N. Africa and the complete depletion of the fuel of the Italian Navy.
"Complete depletion of the fuel" seems excessive.
It's not like they ran out of fuel, it's just that they had their priorities straight, and used the fuel they had to keep the transports running to the end. (Also, they were forced to send precious destroyers to escort them, and so squadron training was disrupted, not to mention that losses meant that the number of DDs available for fleet screening duties was quite low.)
Moreover, I am sure that the fuel situation would have allowed the Forze Navali da Battaglia to intervene against Operation Husky; they were not engaged because of other reasons.
It's simply what happened. The Italian Navy made miracles wit what they had, but the simple convoys traffic to N. Africa consumed, every month, more fuel than the supplies the Navy had. As a result of that, during the war, we see a costantly increasing number of perfectly capable units that had been put in reserve cause simply there was no more fuel to move them. To put the things in perspective, a fleet action like the one that led to the battle of Cape Matapan needed about 50.000-60.000 tons of fuel. The older refurbished battleships had been stopped already at the end of 1941. On 10 jan 1942 the Navy reserves were of 90.000 tons (from about 1.000.000 tons at the beginning of the war, and 610.000 tons in Feb. 1941). in April (also thanks to the depletion caused by the Second battle of the Sirte), they were decreased to only 14.000 tons. Only some extraordinary supply from Romania allowed the last surface action of the Littorio (to stop "Vigorous" in June). In Jan 1943 the three modern battleships were definitely stopped. In Feb. 1943, with the supply of fuel reduced to only 3000 tons for months, the most modern fleet destroyers were retired from escort duties. On 10 April 1943, the bombing that sunk the Trieste and disabled the Gorizia eliminated the only Italian surface force that was still listed as active. The last journey of the Italian Fleet, that to Malta, was possible only thanks to 60.000 tons of fuel that the Germans took from the French base of Toulon on Sept. 1942 and that were used to half fill the tanks of the surviving Italian ships, to allow at least the training of the crews.
yeah, they sent quite a lot to sink just a single ship facing her 1 on 1 would be a nightmare, lol not to mention her sister is also one though ship to sink
She got rendered helpless by Rodney in a single salvo, though it took a lot to sink the Bismarck it was nothing more than a hulk after the Rodney disabled her guns.
Imo Bisko is only famous for sinking what was essentially a conscripted museum almost as old as Kongou with none of the modernizations.
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She really came!Ah!
If you come any closer than that, I'll call the German ships!Hiiiiii!
It's an English shiiiip!What, you called?I shall be in your care, yes?Welcome!
I am Iowa!!If you have any problems, you can just leave them to me, the Hero!A German ship!?This enthusiasm...
She's an American battleship all right.
