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Tag implication: tentacle_sex -> tentacles

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NWF_Renim said:
What if they aren't tentacles, but like plant vines? A vine and tentacle are usually distinguishable, but are used and depicted the same way when used in a sex act.

Please show me an example of ambiguous image like you described. That would help very much.

NWF_Renim said:
post #799309, post #696818, post #638418, post #264382, post #211754.

The last four images are not ambiguous at all: they're vines, not tentacles of animals. And I can't see the first one, because it is loli.

Two reasonable alternatives would be these, of which the second is the most reasonable to me:

1. Having both tentacle sex and vine sex to separate between animal/plant.
2. Having tentacle sex for both concepts together, since presumably nobody would care about the aforementioned separation. Notably, some dozens of tags of tentacles are vines, too.

Also, is this new tentacle_sex tag really necessary? It might be well-defined, but it seems a bit pointless to me, considering it's what the vast majority of posts in tentacles already depict. If someone wants tentacles not involved in anything sexual, there's rating:s.

I don't think there's any real problem with the way we've been handling tentacles and vines up until now. There's no reason to make things more complicated just so we can strictly follow definitions.

Fred1515 said:
Also, is this new tentacle_sex tag really necessary? It might be well-defined, but it seems a bit pointless to me, considering it's what the vast majority of posts in tentacles already depict. If someone wants tentacles not involved in anything sexual, there's rating:s.

It would seem to be necessary, at least from my point of view. For example, Ikamusume posts are always tagged with tentacles, but are not sexual the majority of the time, and of the ones that are sexual, they are not necessarily tentacle sex because of the tentacles being part of the character. This would apply for any character that possesses tentacles.

This tentacle_sex tag was only brought up because apparently the sex tag only applies when there's a penis involved, but the previous point stands regardless.

Arrei said:
For example, Ikamusume posts are always tagged with tentacles, but are not sexual the majority of the time, and of the ones that are sexual, they are not necessarily tentacle sex because of the tentacles being part of the character. This would apply for any character that possesses tentacles.

Good point. The tag Ikamusume alone has more than a thousand posts, approximately one fourth of the tag tentacles (about four thousand posts). So, relying on "tentacles" and the rating alone would not return optimal results.

I still support keeping tentacle sex and filling it with the applicable posts.

Danielx21 said:
Good point. The tag Ikamusume alone has more than a thousand posts, approximately one fourth of the tag tentacles (about four thousand posts). So, relying on "tentacles" and the rating alone would not return optimal results.

Not all of the Ikamusume posts are tagged with tentacles, so it's less than one fourth. Only a handful of Ikamusume posts are explicit too, so there's no major problem with using ratings really.

Personally I don't like like the idea of tagging Ikamusume pics with tentacles unless her hair are actually behaving tentacle-y (i.e. restraining women, slipping into orifices, or depicted realistically enough to be tentacles beyond any doubt). I just think there's too much of a visual difference between a "tentacle" as in post #1021603 and one as in post #1021417.

Danielx21 said:
I still support keeping tentacle sex and filling it with the applicable posts.

Cleaning Ikamusume up the way I described above would probably be a lot easier than going through all tentacles posts to populate tentacle_sex. Whether that would be more appropriate though, should be discussed and decided by people who are more qualified than I am. This is just my opinion.

Regardless of whether or not Ikamusume should always be tagged with tentacles (or the more accurate tentacle_hair, but one might argue that tentacle_hair might necessitate the tentacles tag as an implication as well), cleaning up Ikamusume does not solve the underlying problem of tentacles simply being a tag for the actual tentacles. Ikamusume was only an example, any character that has tentacles as part of their design but does not use them for the actual act of sex can cause this issue. It's the type of thing that can create a lot of false positives so I see no detriment to having a tag specifying the presence of tentacle_sex like all the other sex-type tags.

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Bloodletter said:
I'm for keeping tentacle sex as a general tag for usage with tentacles, vines, snakes/eels, and whatever other similar phenomena there might be (tongues? I don't know).

I object to using it for snakes/eels. Nobody will ever look at snake/eel "bestiality" and think of "tentacle sex". A tentacle always belongs to a bigger entity.
Tongues I can already tag licking and cunnilingus.
BTW, I just tried searching for frog tongue -rating:s and look what I got...

This is the kind of thing that depends on the situation, I suppose.

That frog tongue one isn't identifiable as tentacle sex IMO, but if there were an image with particularly long and prehensile tongues wrapping around a subject, I'd say it would qualify.

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